The biggest question will be if NBC keeps Broadway Video as the production company for SNL after Lorne is gone. If they don’t the network can empty out all of the staff offices and let a new EP start from scratch. They can also slash the budget, cut back on the number of cast members, and the writing staff.
If the show stays with Broadway Video, I’d assume one of Lorne’s assistant EPs would move up to the EP job. Depending on the contract they have, NBC will probably use the opportunity to cut the budget. On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 10:41 PM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 6:27 PM Melissa P <takingupspace...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> SNL's problem has always been good writing (even in the early days), LOTS >> of consistently good writing. >> >> Also, experience outweighs youth in my opinion. >> >> I'm reminded of a taping of* Everyone Loves Raymond* I attended. I got >> to tell Phil Rosenthal that one particular episode was one the finest >> sitcom episodes I had ever seen. He identified the writer of that episode >> who was congregating with the show's other writers. He was probably twice >> the age of anyone else on the writing team. In this society, we seem to >> dismiss too quickly the value of experience. >> > > I am a fan of Scrubs creator Bill Lawrence, but he will be the first to > admit that he’s not responsible for Ted Lasso or the other recent shows > where he’s credited as producer. As was done for him on Spin City, he now > serves as the elder statesman, shepherding new and younger writers and > producers. He sees it as his responsibility to foster the creativity of > future generations. Lorne Michaels would never consider anything like that. > He sees young talent as something to be milked for his own benefit. > > >> I'm not sure if anyone remembers, but I think I posted here an SNL sketch >> that actually made me laugh, the first time in years. The setting was a >> Waffle House. When I was in Memphis last month, the local lead news story >> was shootings at two Waffle Houses. I had been to both of them. >> >> Gosh, Kevin, there's so much we're not teaching kids these days, starting >> with being able to separate fact from fiction, civics, and instilling in >> them the value of expertise. (The Supreme Court is about to do away with >> the latter.) >> > > Not for nothing, but the students I teach get lessons in all of the above, > and I also make sure they know and appreciate Johnny Carson, Mr Rogers, > Humphrey Bogart, and Snoopy, to name a few. > > >> >> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 4:05 PM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I concur with your resentment, but I also understand the thought behind >>> the ageism. SNL has to cultivate a younger and more diverse audience if it >>> is going to survive while still not totally alienating its older viewers. I >>> think Michaels struggles with this, and I think Fey would struggle with it, >>> too, but less because of her age and more because of her inability to >>> pander without it seeming obvious (looking at you, Mean Girls reboot). A >>> younger showrunner more connected to modern popular culture might have a >>> better chance at reaching 14-year-olds, but teens and young adults are >>> unpredictable in their tastes and sensibilities (which is to say most have >>> neither taste nor sense). They might gravitate towards media produced by a >>> 50-something just because society doesn’t expect them to. >>> >>> Many of the middle school students I encounter consider themselves >>> Swifties but in the same breath say they hate country music. They believe >>> you cannot be successful on the basketball court without Nikes, but their >>> Nikes are the ones from Shoe City that on closer inspection aren’t really >>> Nikes. You can show them how your $20 water cup keeps drinks colder longer >>> than their $50 Stanley cup, but they will still maintain their cup is >>> superior. But any adult who tries to relate to them or speak to them using >>> their common slang (such as “sus” or “bussin’”) will be regarded as one >>> step below a pedophile. By and large, kids today (oh, how I hate that >>> expression) can spot someone talking down to them and immediately reject >>> them… it might be their only redeeming virtue. As long as SNL persists in >>> pandering, they will fail to capture the attention of kids today. Michaels >>> and Fey both only know how to do comedy that panders, which is not to say >>> there isn’t genuine laughter to be found in that mine, but it won’t hook >>> young audiences. >>> >>> Kevin M. (RPCV) >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 12:08 PM Melissa P <takingupspace...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'll just add that I resent someone saying that at 53, Fey is too old >>>> for the job. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:58 PM Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Lorne’s superpower was that nobody at NBC would mess with him. Once >>>>> he’s out of the picture the new showrunner will have to answer to all of >>>>> the network’s executives. It’s a wonder the show lasted as long as it did >>>>> with him and it won’t last long without him. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:08 PM Dave Sikula <davesik...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Plus, I would think Fey has too many other real projects (and common >>>>>> sense) to want to take that nightmare on. >>>>>> >>>>>> —Dave Sikula >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 6:50 AM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Meanwhile, Lorne mentioned in interviews during his CA Emmys trip >>>>>> that he is planning on staying with the show through the 50th anniversary >>>>>> special in January of 2025, but hinted he would retire soon after. He >>>>>> agreed to a suggestion that Tina Fey is one of several who has what it >>>>>> takes to replace him. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fey does make sense in many ways, except…she old. Michaels was around >>>>>> 30 when he started SNL, and was in touch personally or culturally with >>>>>> much >>>>>> of the cutting edge in comedy and music. Fey is 53. Of course Lorne wants >>>>>> someone who will tend the flame and not reinvent the show. Still, I might >>>>>> be looking for someone like some Writer/Producer who worked with like >>>>>> Conan >>>>>> or TDS and is in their 30s. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lorne-michaels-retiring-snl-just-153758117.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 10:23 PM Mark Jeffries <spotligh...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Written and directed by Jason Reitman for Sony, "SNL 1975" tells the >>>>>>> story behind-the-scenes of the weeks before the NBC late-night >>>>>>> institution >>>>>>> began its run--Gabriel LaBelle, who played the Spielberg stand-in in >>>>>>> "The >>>>>>> Fabelmans," is playing Lorne, with Cooper Hoffman ("Licorice Pizza") as >>>>>>> Lorne's immediate NBC boss Dick Ebersol and Rachel Sennott ("The Idol," >>>>>>> "Bottoms") as Rosie Schuster, Lorne's wife and a writer on the show--the >>>>>>> question is, who's playing the Not Ready for Prime Time Players: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/01/the-fablemans-gabriel-labelle-lorne-michaels-snl-1975-cooper-hoffman-rachel-sennott-1235797505/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And of course Sikula and Marousek will hate it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CA%2B_fQPzpD9fpwtsg9uk%2BJGmnhMQMLSevB0rVOSWvuotVQ7VvPA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CA%2B_fQPzpD9fpwtsg9uk%2BJGmnhMQMLSevB0rVOSWvuotVQ7VvPA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4AF438ATz_t3voO4jtE9f6ZG0sJKjv6NPZRjK2ya1ojXw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4AF438ATz_t3voO4jtE9f6ZG0sJKjv6NPZRjK2ya1ojXw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. 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