Any news from the Service Team? I'd really like to get the counters
right in an upcoming release...

-ch

On Mar 6, 12:18 pm, Alex Payne <a...@twitter.com> wrote:
> I'm taking this email to our Service Team, the folks who work on the
> back-end of the service. The whole "message body changing as it moves
> from cache to backing store" thing is totally unacceptable. Answers
> soon.
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 09:43, Craig Hockenberry
>
>
>
> <craig.hockenbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Some discussion about this thread popped up on Twitter yesterday:
>
> > <http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/
> > thread/44be91d5ec5850fa>
>
> > Alex states that it's 140 bytes per tweet. So, of course, Loren
> > Brichter and I tried to prove that. With the following results:
>
> > 1) 140 characters that including ones that include HTML entities:
> > <http://twitter.com/gnitset/status/1286202252>
>
> > At the time of posting, this tweet showed up on the site and in feeds
> > with all 140 characters. After a few hours, the "<" was converted to
> > "&lt;", increasing the count per character from one to four bytes and
> > decreasing the tweet length from 140 characters to 69. (You can see
> > this truncation at the end of the tweet: the "&" is from "&lt;")
>
> > Presumably, this happens as tweets in the memcache are written though
> > to the backing store.
>
> > I also see a lot of Twitter clients that don't realize how special the
> > &lt; and &gt; entities are. It took me a LONG time to figure out what
> > was going on here.
>
> > 2) 140 Unicode _multi-byte_ characters: <http://twitter.com/atebits/
> > status/1286199010>
>
> > What's curious is that Loren's example with 140 characters uses the
> > Unicode 27A1 glyph. It uses 3 bytes in UTF-8. Why didn't it get
> > truncated? This seems to contradict Alex's statement in the thread
> > mentioned above.
>
> > As people start to use things like Emoji, tinyarro.ws and generally
> > figure out that Unicode (UTF-8) is a valid type of data on Twitter,
> > our clients should adapt and display more accurate "characters
> > remaining" counts. I can count bytes instead of characters, but I'm
> > not sure if I should or not.
>
> > No one likes a truncated tweet: we need an explicit statement on how
> > to count and submit multi-byte characters and entities.
>
> > -ch
>
> --
> Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x

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