we developed xauth specifically for that - mobile and desktop clients were
complaining about usability problems when they have to bounce their users to
a web browser.  i'm well aware of the implications about xauth, and have
blogged about it here:

http://mehack.com/xauth-and-perhaps-the-need-for-socializing-ap

would love to hear more comments as i formalize my thoughts around this!

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Jaanus <jaa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why are you Twitter guys pushing xAuth so hard? Even for new desktop
> clients? Instead of recommending a proper oAuth flow with PIN or such?
> I understood its main purpose is to help legacy clients with
> transition, and new clients should do proper oAuth.
>
> One argument I have seen is that oAuth has usability problems. I would
> like to see more substance around this statement beyond just
> developers thinking out loud. I have implemented oAuth in @cremeapp
> (ok, it uses in-app browser instead of separate, but otherwise it is
> the proper PIN flow) and not a single person has complained. I see
> from usage numbers that people breeze through the oAuth authentication
> just fine. I was expecting worse, but it's fine. It comes down to
> proper UI design and clarity of instructions.
>
>
> J
>
>
> On Apr 14, 1:15 am, Taylor Singletary <taylorsinglet...@twitter.com>
> wrote:
> > Basic auto being turned off means just that..
> >
> > Desktop clients can implement xAuth as an alternative, where you do a
> > one-time exchange of login and password for an OAuth access token and
> > continue from there signing your requests and doing things in the
> > OAuth way. You'd no longer, as a best practice and one that I would
> > stress in the upmost even on a desktop client, store the login and
> > password beyond the xAuth access token negotiation step. If the token
> > were revoked you would then query for the login and password again and
> > so on and so on and also and also.
> >
> > Obtaining permission to use xAuth for desktop clients is as easy as
> > sending a well-identified and verbose note to a...@twitter.com.
> >
> > Basic auth had a good run. It's nearly time to say goodnight.
> >
> > Taylor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 13, 2010, Dean Collins <d...@cognation.net> wrote:
> > > Just so I understand this, applications running on the desktop will
> still work correct? Basic functionality is only being turned off for web
> apps correct? It's not like desktop apps will have to start using oauth.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> >
> > > Dean
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dewald Pretorius
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:31 PM
> > > To: Twitter Development Talk
> > > Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation
> >
> > > Could you please announce the hard turn off date somewhere on one of
> > > your Twitter blogs about a month ahead of time, so that we all have an
> > > official source to point our users to when we explain to them why
> > > we're converting everything over to OAuth?
> >
> > > On Apr 13, 8:19 pm, Raffi Krikorian <ra...@twitter.com> wrote:
> > >> we have announced deprecation, and will hard turn off basic
> authentication
> > >> in june.  the exact date has not been set, but i presume it will be
> later in
> > >> the month.
> >
> > >> Is Basic Auth going to be deprecated (as in hard switched-off) in
> >
> > >> > June, or are you in June going to announce depracation, with the
> hard
> > >> > switch-off then coming a few months later?
> >
> > >> --
> > >> Raffi Krikorian
> > >> Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/raffi
> >
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> >
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> > Taylor Singletary
> > Developer Advocate, Twitterhttp://twitter.com/episod
>



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