Ok maybe ordinary was not as explanatory as I thought it would be. What I 
meant was developers outside of Microsoft and other big $,$$$,$$$,$$$ 
companies. I usually get the expression -not only from here but generally- 
that people tend to pay to big companies and not to smaller ones despite 
offering the same service and even less costly.

Please do not get me wrong, I did not want to show disrespect. I just wanted 
to emphasize that money spent on ICS-SSL would not be wasted.

Regards,

SZ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marius van Tubbergh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" <twsocket@elists.org>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Protocol "https" not implemented EHttpException


>> I do not understand why people who spend hundreds of dollars for each
>> Windows copy hesitate to support a descent effort initiated by me back in
>> 2002-2003 and implemented by many volunteers who are ordinary coders just
>> like YOU!
> "Ordinary"??? Please elaborate.
> If my understanding is not failing me please let me have a word or two:
> I welcome your compliment warmly. Please keep in mind that you
> don't have a job if not for "ordinary" coders like myself.
> Bottom line is ordinary component developers like YOURSELF need ordinary
> coders like me.
>
> Please show me where does MS advertise there O/S to be free
> and as soon as you want to browse My Computer you need to make a 
> "donation"
> (compulsory)?
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>>I am not sure what your earning model is but ever thought of
>> developing shareware? If you did, you would understand
> My earning model is enough to purchase the best component suite on the
> market.
> (BTW: I have spend $1000's on components since 2002).
> I am developing freeware software as a hobby and support free / open 
> source
> components.
> My line of work varies from property investment to software development
> etc...
> You might rent one of my properties, drop me the address and I will 
> confirm.
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>>that $50 for a source
>> code is actually no expensive than nothing.
> If not mistaken a minimum of $119 (only) will get me the source code.
> See: http://www.overbyte.be/frame_index.html
> I have no problem that you get paid for the ordinary work you do!
> But you should consider to replace "Freeware" (as you arrogantly advertise
> on your site) to "Shareware".
> What if I set up a software site and promote freeware software but as soon
> as you get to the download link
> I pop you an ORDER page to beg for a donation and if you don't donate you
> don't get the software. Or even worse,
> after you use the software you realize that it's only partly free and you
> have to make a minimum "donation" (doubting the terminology here) of $119
> in order to use the entire application.
> Please refer to your English dictionary for the term "donation".
> Quoting WordWeb:
> "Donation" =
>                     "A voluntary gift (as of money or service or ideas)
> made to some worthwhile cause"
>                     "Act of giving in common with others for a common
> purpose especially to a charity"
> Yes, I realize ICS is free and SSL-ICS is not free.
> You actually have very clever strategy, will give you credit for that.
> Something at least not that ordinary about YOU.
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> NB: Your approach is really not good.
> Rather stick to technical support and don't try to get funny with users.
> I have actually just received a decent reply from DZ-Jay (Thanks).
> Have a look at it, catch a few tips and by the time SSL-ICS is free for
> everyone you might have enough
> "people-skills" not to chase users away but rather attract them.
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