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>giving a cost of $14 per submission. I think that's okay. > Plus, a large share of these costs are fixed, they would not go up with the > number of submissions, so we could setup our journals as arxiv overlays -Yes A donation to arxiv of 300$ for a workshop and 1k for a conference is likely to cover all of their costs. If I were to chair an event as an "arxiv overlays" I think donating that kind of money would be a simple and sustainable way forward.... note how it is less than what an average participant pays for the air ticket alone. Overall, what is the real difference between A- actual conference proceeding published conventionally B- a well formatted website with a bunch of links to arxiv articles In the end, what gives credibility and value to our work is the voluntary and amazing process of peer review, validated and monitored by a committee of world experts in the specific research field. In this internet age, what is the value added by a publisher? I've never understood that. Marco.