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On 12/15/23 7:33 AM, Guilherme Espada wrote:
Adam Chlipala wrote:

> at the same as our conferences are applying
> significant financial cost and volunteer effort to provide what may
> actually be a net negative.

I will not pass judgment on the rest of your email, but I feel like there
is something I must clarify:

Our 'in-house' AV Team actually *saves* SIGPLAN a fair chunk of money, in most cases even in comparison to just having in-room AV fully provided by the hotel. It also incorrect to assume that if we stopped recording talks, the tech issues
would magically disappear.
Certainly, it is a complex job to get the bits to the right places at the right times, and the volunteer team that you lead has done a great job of solving that problem cost-effectively!  I just think it is worthwhile for the community to decide what value we place on a solution to that hard problem.
In addition, recording talks provide a valuable service:
* To the members of the community who cannot afford to attend.
* To the members of other communities who might have an
  interest in some intersectional work.

I think the perceived value of talks in the first place, even those experienced in-person, may be out-of-wack with the realities of advantages vs. reading papers.  Everyone can read the papers in any case, especially given SIGPLAN's commitment to open access. Our brains, tuned through evolution in small hunter-gatherer bands, attach value to being in the same room as impressive people saying things well (and, with some discount factor, to virtual approximations thereof), as the ability to attend impressive talks is connected to building social status in the group.  However, I think it's questionable that this medium scores well for actual explanation of complex ideas, compared to papers.

* To the authors, who greatly appreciate having a recorded version of their
  talk, both for reference, exposure and archival.
This mode can be accommodated easily with authors recording their own videos, which are likely to be higher-quality than what is captured at a conference.  The conference infrastructure can still accommodate distributing author-produced videos, as we did in many cases during lockdown.
Given we have volunteers who
believe in the mission of making the community more open, and that gladly
provide this service, I don't think there is a good reason to stop recording.
We've been together in a conference session recently whose start was delayed at least 30 minutes for debugging of AV issues.  I believe that would be significantly less likely to happen if we only needed to get pixels over an HDMI cable to a projector.  My understanding of video-streaming workflows is that they invariably require relatively complex software to intervene between the presenter's laptop and the display screen, which need not be the case without a goal to send a talk elsewhere.  These delays should be appreciated as real costs of more complex arrangements.  (This community is in a good position to realize how much less reliable systems can become when they move from hardware-only to include software!)

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