Hi Christopher Don't worry about it if people tell the world that they can reduce their Problems using another Extension. I only answered on Problems with RealURL!!! And Please ask yourself WHY people have so much problems with this extension. This isn't Dimitries fault at all, This started much much earlier!
If someone creates an extension he should be interested in INTEGRATING NEW features - if he/her himself isn't able in doing this i.e. time/money problem, then their should be a TEAM working together. Instead of what actually happened with RealURL It is a total mess on extensions doing similar things, doing other things, doing this but not this, being in conflict with that and so on. Beside it is, like Dimitry already said - IT IS AN VERY OLD CODE - OK still working and like Dimitry had the idea - probably needs to be rebuild - but actually an REBUILD would be totally stupid as COOLURI is already existing with much more features a veru good THESIS which describes all its functionallity - A Tutorial describes step by step how to do it - OK this would be an IDEA! Why hasn't anyone of all those who are now talking that RealURL is so EASY and UNDERSTANDABLE (as it isn't it at all) written a step by step Tutorial to setup a real complete working RealURL setting in 15 Minutes? I know - as a teacher - that people avoid reading and like more to do try and error, but even then ask you why with cooluri you only install the extension, Copy the XML into typo3conf and Put the SAME Lines into your .htacces and it is working perfectly? WHY? And best of all, even if you only needed the same amount of time to setup RealURL (realurl) you'll never get the features you have with cooluri just after installing. COMPARISSON TASK_________________________RealURL___________________CoolURI____________________________ ,htaccess______________________1 min______________________1 min____it is more or less the same__ inserting code into localconf ___ ___1 min______________________0 min (not needed) ___________________ copying XML to typo3conf ________ 0 min (not available)__________1 min____coming with example and language settings *(1 inserting setup code _____________1 min _____________________ 1 min ___ it is more or less the same 1. Rewrite of the URLs: ___________1 min_____________________ 1 min ___ Result: ________________________4 min _____________________ 4 min ____________________________ OK this is equal! Now have a look to the features and how long you need to get them working URL-Management Installation, Configuration _________2 min _____________________ no more time as it is already included Language Improvements Editing in localconf at the right place - but where?? _________3 min _____________________ no more time as it is already included Multidomain Capabilities Hmm I never got the right settings _5 min ______________________ no more time as it is already included (checkbox at install that's it) Now you wanna use Extensions for each extension you need at least 5 minutes to figure out which code belongs where _______5 min ______________________ first time 5 min afterwards _________________________________________________________no more time as you always can reuse your XML-Setting _________________________________________________________only link to the file Some People like to have only one URL Level _____ no idea if it is working at all ____________since Version .10 CoolUri is supporting longURLs, which means you _________________________________________________________ can have only ONE Level for all your Pages like: _________________________________________________________domain.com/level1-level2-level3-this-is-level-4-and-so-on You like to skip one pathsegment i.e instead of home/contact you want to have contact only be a fast reader to figure it out where to insert the code____ _____5min_______________________1 Minute - you have to enter a line at always the same place for each _________________________________________________________part you want to skip and now try the more complicated things, If you don't believe it then make a competition. Let Dimitry set of a complicated setting with RealURL and Jan with CoolUri. I bet you that Jan will need only 1/4maximum of time as Dimitry to achieve the same result! Even if Dimitry would have all settings ready to paste and copy and Jan would have the same - Dimitry would need to do 3 - 5 or even more times an Installation Process - connecting to TER downloading Installing and so on while Jan only would install CoolUri ONCE That's it. Set up a multidomain setting it would be even more difference and much much faster solution with CoolUri. Or try a multi TYPO3 Installation with different sets of other extensions here Dimitry would need to copy x-times into the localconf.php while Jan simply would insert the path to ONE XML File on the server for all Installations. OK - You probably still believe that RealURL is faster or whatever! Sorry but RealURL belongs to history - It has done a very great Job and all my thanks to the developers especially Dimitry but it is time to prepare a nice retirement for her. More and more people are moving to PHP5 and those ALL OF THEM should start right the way with CoolURI. If a company has to much money or to much time OK then I would be the last to hold them and tell them don't waste your time or money. If they like it? But if they afterwards complain, WHY other companies - which use CoolUri could be faster and much cheaper then hopefully they start to think about it. CoolUri is the future and as I said. If Dimitry would concentrate fully on TemplaVoila and nomore on RealURL and all those long Problem Posts here in the maillist, and if instead JAN would get into CORE to do all this RealURL Rewriting Stuff Then WE ALL - the Users, the Developers and our Customers would really appreciate it, as we all would have more time and more money to invest in other good things of TYPO3. EVERYONE - who is still promoting RealURL for PHP5 Sites is in my opinion like a big big BRAKE for the whole future development of TYPO3! Come on and start thinking New! Most of you developers probably like to have your newest Computers up and running with the state of the ART newest Software, so why are you so afraid of CoolUri and against it and talking about SPAM when people like CoolURI. Please Compare how much Posts are in the List a Day about REALURL and how much about COOLURI. Sorry but they are always LESSER Posts of CoolURI as i.e. I only answer on Problems to people which have problems with RealURL. Then Compare how many people continue Posting after they heard about CoolURI beside those who answer that they unfortunately are still working with PHP4, the you will have nearly nobody - which in my eyes means that they try cooluri! And if they try it they will stick to it BE SURE! as they will realise that CoolUri saves THEIR Time! So please talk about spamming when I promote CoolUri. The Real Spammer Extensions or the MOST Problemmakers in this list are RealURL and Direct Mail - check it. If people would use COOLURI and t3m the list would be much much shorter and people would be much much happier and instead they could invest much more time in developing new things to make TYPO3 Better and Better! So BE COOL and watch your URI (UHR-is German - english-watch/clock) It is TRUE Fingers won't get hot Typing RealURL Problems anymore and you will have TIME - lots of it - don't be afraid! People with RealURL Problems should get devided in two groups PHP4 and PHP5 and all in PHP5 should get redirected to CoolURI in my personal Opinion!!! Thanks to Dimitry for his RealURL Support you DID a GREAT JOB!!! and for those working with PHP4 probably still need some of your help Thanks to Jan for creating CoolUri - the out of the BOX Working URL-Solution not only for TYPO3!!! and Your great Support Andi P.S. Example Cars. The Ford T Modell was a nice car and sold very very often Would you still drive in it if money won't matter (OpenSource) and if you had the chance to get faster and much safer from point a to point? b? *(1 You only need to create an XML file ONCE for all your TYPO3 Installations and then you only need to LINK to this file!!!. If you give it to the customer, then simply DELETE all Parts specific to extensions, Have a look to the Tutorial Example of mm_forum - it is coloured and here you see how easy things could be deleted from a complete long Xml where you simply collect all your settings. It has a very clear understandable structure No Problems with missing ; and }]or else somewhere in nowhere inside the localconf or even an external realurl file. People are reading with the eyes and with the first view you will see what is belonging to an Exentension in coolUri while you are still searching for the right end in your RealURL settings and probably deleting a ";" to much! Try to copy RealURL code from books into the setup field - and try to check it there - it is one of the most awfull tasks you can have! Using CoolUri you have an EXTERNAL file and even you edit it online you will see a clear structured xml boxes with beginning and clear end. 2007/7/10, Christopher Torgalson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, > > On 7/10/07, Dmitry Dulepov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <snip> > > > > I really don't know why people always get so angry when other people - > in > > > this case me - promote a better solution in their mind, instead of > getting > > > stuck in finding solutions which often takes days! Dimitry it is > nothing > > > personal against you as you are a great developer like Jan but in my > > > opinion > > > > I see no problem with promoting anything but your message looked like I > > abandoned realurl support and realurl is a piece of crap comparing to > > something shining brightly :) It really did. > > > Andreas, I agree with Dmitry--there's no problem with promoting new > extensions and so forth, but the CoolURI posts on this list in the > last few weeks have had a distinctly spammy taste to me... > > > -- > Christopher Torgalson > http://www.typo3apprentice.com/ > _______________________________________________ > TYPO3-english mailing list > TYPO3-english@lists.netfielders.de > http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english > _______________________________________________ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.netfielders.de http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
