Hey Ries, I understand how good LaTex is for typesetting, it is just hard to learn. I layout and publish books from time to time, so tried to learn it a few years ago and had trouble. So, I use Quark and Pagemaker/In Design that I can handle. Both of those do a good, job. We have to remember that no word processor is a good program to produce a book or manual in. That includes OO and Word, but that was never the purpose of a word processor. That said, the way current TYPO3 manuals are formatted, they can be done in OO, but any books or longer documents really need to be done in a layout program. I would never try and use a OO or Word file for a full book (even when converting to pdf because one change throws everything off.) Virgil
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:01 PM, ries van Twisk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Virgil, > > there are some pretty decent frontends for it nows days. > We do use LaTeX for rendering full color catalogs for over a year now. > This does work spotless and creates beautiful catalogs without a > worrying > if the system will work, how it will look... etc etc. I can send you a > sample of you like... > > > As a type setter, LaTeX truly rocks and there is hardly now other > (free) system that can come even > close to the quality of TeX, even OO does a bad jon compared to a real > typesetting system. > > But yes it comes at a price and LaTeX does have a learning curve. > However once data is stored in a good database (like TYPO3) then you > can go > in many directions when it come of generation of final documents. > Personally I don't find TYPO3 as a good editor for large documents, > however it's not bad for it's price and we all know how it works which > makes the learning curve low > for editors. > > Ries > > > > On Mar 17, 2008, at 9:45 PM, virgil huston wrote: > > > Hi Ries, > > > > I will use LaTex if you teach me how :-) I just was reminded when I > > read > > your message that TYPO3 is not the most difficult software I ever > > tried to > > learn, LaTex was! It made absolutely no sense at all. I think this > > is not a > > good option unless things have change in the last 2 or 3 year and it > > has a > > good frontend. > > > > Cheers, > > Virgil > > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:31 PM, ries van Twisk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> To give you all a other option there is something called latex, > >> it takes a our or 2 to get used to... But then you can render in any > >> format perfectly. > >> LaTeX was created for documentation creation for academic uses, book > >> creations > >> where you can concentrate on writing rather then markup which is why > >> most people > >> spend half of the time in there documents just to make it look good.. > >> > >> > >> However I do feel that OO is better suited and easy to use for > >> everybody, > >> except for the Letter/a4 issue... but handy made a good suggestion to > >> solve that, but needs > >> testing I assume. > >> > >> I do feel that TYPO3 is not a good solution for serious documentation > >> generation like Daniel suggested. > >> making good looking PDF files out of any webside, TYPO3 or not is > >> hard, but not impossible because > >> of the way TYPO3 stored information. But a simple html2pdf tool will > >> not do the trick. You then need to dive > >> into XSLT already to make it work reliable... > >> > >> just my two cents... > >> > >> Ries > >> > >> > >> On Mar 17, 2008, at 6:44 PM, virgil huston wrote: > >> > >>> One question. Is there a way to have pages not A4. A4 really messes > >>> up US > >>> printers. I have seen cases where printers are "down" for days. Is > >>> there a > >>> way to make a choice between A4 and the US letter size in these > >>> cases. > >>> > >>> Virgil > >>> > >>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Daniel Bruessler > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hallo Andreas, > >>>> > >>>> yes, you're right TYPO3 would be the best choice. > >>>> > >>>> Is there a pdf-renderer extension in TER that does automatic > >>>> page-breaks? We really need a tool that does NOT have fixed pages. > >>>> > >>>> The copy-and-paste of the RTE is really good - it allows to add > >>>> pictures > >>>> without uploading. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers! > >>>> Daniel > >>>> > >>>>> Best of all : We already HAVE THIS TOOL!!! > >>>>> > >>>>> USE TYPO3 > >>>>> it provides workspaces > >>>>> it provides versioning > >>>>> it provides multiple language > >>>>> it provides one of the best user managements > >>>>> it can read/import OO/Word/PDF > >>>>> it has a realtext Editor with lots of features > >>>>> It provides a much better way then google docs or another tool to > >>>>> insert > >>>>> CODE examples > >>>>> can create PDF > >>>>> it can be printed as a complete BOOK (EXT:pipeline) > >>>>> an online Version and a printed Version could be combined in One > >>>>> Tree. > >>>>> Parts of "Translations" could be reused for several Levels > >>>>> Andi > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> TYPO3-english mailing list > >>>> TYPO3-english@lists.netfielders.de > >>>> http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> TYPO3-english mailing list > >>> TYPO3-english@lists.netfielders.de > >>> http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english > >> > >> Ries van Twisk > >> tags: Freelance TYPO3 JBoss JasperReports Flex Blaze-DS WebORB > >> PostgreSQL DB-Architect > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> web: http://www.rvantwisk.nl/ > >> skype: callto://r.vantwisk > >> Phone: + 1 810-476-4193 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> TYPO3-english mailing list > >> TYPO3-english@lists.netfielders.de > >> http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > TYPO3-english mailing list > > TYPO3-english@lists.netfielders.de > > http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english > > Ries van Twisk > tags: Freelance TYPO3 JBoss JasperReports Flex Blaze-DS WebORB > PostgreSQL DB-Architect > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: http://www.rvantwisk.nl/ > skype: callto://r.vantwisk > Phone: + 1 810-476-4193 > > _______________________________________________ > TYPO3-english mailing list > TYPO3-english@lists.netfielders.de > http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english > _______________________________________________ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.netfielders.de http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english