Ben Warren schrieb: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Scott Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ben Warren wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>>> I find a device tree much easier to figure out than a tangled mess of >>>> header >>>> files, #defines, and #ifdefs... >>> In many ways, yes. But are you an average Joe or a Linux kernel >>> propellerhead? >> Is u-boot work normally done by average Joes, and does the average Joe >> really find the preprocessor mess more intuitive than a "propellerhead"? >> > You know what I mean. Some people like yourself do this for a living, > and are involved day-to-day in its specification. Of course it's > intuitive to you. For most people, getting U-boot going is one stage > in the development process of software for an embedded device. They > work on it for a few weeks or months, then on something completely > different. A few months or years later, they come back to it.
You're absolutely right - just have a look at the vast lists of maintainers/contributors ... they are "average Joes" like myself. Realizing 2-3 projects each year should be possible without having to re-learn from scratch. >> While we're at it, let's re-write u-boot in Visual Basic. :-) > Uh, yeah. I like the idea of a central repo for hardware info, and > the device tree concept is good. My point is that the syntax, while > concise and exact, can be intimidating. Just look at the amount of > traffic on the mailing lists of people that don't understand what all > the fields mean when specifying IRQs etc. Anything we can do to make > it less so for noobies is a good thing for everybody. > Please keep in mind that WDenk is always watching if code is slowing things down or increasing size significantly. Improving things is very good - but not at the cost of size and/or speed. Configuring a board using a dtb usually needs far more code being present than needed. After all it's a bootloader and not another pseudo OS. But don't get me wrong ! The device tree is a very nice and usefuly thing ... for an OS. regards, André > cheers, > Ben > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > U-Boot-Users mailing list > U-Boot-Users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/u-boot-users MATRIX VISION GmbH, Talstraße 16, DE-71570 Oppenweiler - Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 271090 Geschäftsführer: Gerhard Thullner, Werner Armingeon, Uwe Furtner ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ U-Boot-Users mailing list U-Boot-Users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/u-boot-users