I often wonder about SQL..... <scratching bald spot on head>

BobW


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> Susan,
> 
> This is the approach I took with the speaker.  There was a period of
> time 'in the good old days' where the has could go goofy either
through
> corruption or keys containing system delimiters ..
> 
> But as the speaker (supposidly with the same term of experieince as I)
> was teaching the benefits of MsSql Server and the wonders of sql ..
<G>
> 
> DSig
> David Tod Sigafoos
> SigsSolutions, Inc.
> 
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [U2] Unique Ids
> > From: "Susan Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue, March 08, 2005 11:54 am
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> >
> > I don't recall an MV implementation that intentionally allowed non-
> unique
> > primary keys.  Were the people in the meeting thinking of secondary
keys
> > (aka indexes) in which non-unique keys are quite possible?
> >
> > The only other thing I can think of would be the old (and non-
> intentional!)
> > problems with traditional native Pick in which a group in overflow
could
> > have one of the linked frames written back to disk and another
linked
> frame
> > in the group not written back to disk (eg. during a system crash),
in
> which
> > case a record which shifted position in the group could end up in
both
> > frames, and thus in the group twice.  In order to get rid of one of
the
> two,
> > we used to edit that record in the file, which would bring up the
first
> one
> > in the group - look at it to see if this is a complete and
up-to-date
> > version of the record and either save it to move it to the back end
of
> the
> > group  or delete it if it was obviously a damaged or partial copy.
If
> we
> > did not delete that record, we would then edit the record with that
key
> > again, which would bring up the one that used to be second and was
now
> the
> > first in the group, and decide which one to keep.  I haven't seen
this
> on a
> > UD system, due to the way that the keys are stored in a table at the
> > beginning of the group, and I don't recall having seen it on the UV
> system
> > that I managed for a few years, but I did see it a lot in the
earlier
> days
> > in Pick.
> >
> > Susan Lynch
> > F.W. Davison & Company, Inc.
> >
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> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:37 PM
> > Subject: [U2] Unique Ids
> >
> >
> > > I just came out of a meeting where it was stated that MV databases
> allow
> > > non-unique keys.
> > >
> > > Now I have been working in the VM world since 1983 and although I
can
> > > remember a time when some of the implementations had 'problems'
with
> > > hash and specific data in keys .. i can not think of a time when
MV
> > > tables allowed non-unique keys.
> > >
> > > 'Say it aint so Joe' ..
> > >
> > > If anyone knows of any implementation which specifically allows
> > > non-unique ids .. please let me know .. show me the light.  Have I
be
> > > in the back room eating twinkies too long?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > DSig
> > > David Tod Sigafoos
> > > SigsSolutions, Inc.
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