and I'm at one of the largest installs...

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While I suppose that is true that Avante is not "Tier One", Avante runs in
some rather large organizations... perhaps 1000 users.  Avante has quite a
lot of features and functionality.

I never considered Jeter to be a "heavy-weight".  Thus, a more meaningful
analogy would be... a luxury van to a luxury bus.

Let's go Mets.

--Bill 

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X-Squeeze me 

But comparing Avante to JD Edwards & Sap is like putting a 2.5 foot T-ball
player up against Derek Jeter..its not in the same league

Avante is not a tier 1 no matter how much you would like to think that its
playing with the big boys...

--
Debster

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> There are a few Epicor people that do read this list. They just tend to 
> lay low unless the discussion effects them directly. 
> I can say a that there are a few people still in the Manage-2000 group 
> that are very good with the interfaces to U2. 
> From my past experience with Epicor, they are a very good company for 
> support, and regardless of how many developers you have, there will 
> always be bugs in the software that require patches. Many times these 
> bugs are not evident due to the fact that everyone will use the software 
> slightly different. 
> I think their long term plan is to take the many packages they have and 
> migrate them all into one package that is all inclusive and database 
> independent. Although making it database independent may be counter 
> productive to their plan on consolidating the software packages. 
> 
> If you look at who the other choices are for software, I'd say Epicor 
> is still one of the top choices. Especially when you consider the 
> flexibility needed in dealing in a manufacturing environment. What are 
> your other choices? JD Edwards? SAP? 
> They are also trying to focus on integrating all of their other packages 
> together into a complete solution. Kind of like cross selling. If you 
> run ERP and want CRM then they want to integrate the 2. 
> They have many initiatives that are good ideas, in my humble opinion, 
> but it will take them years to make it work. 
> 
> Jeffrey Lettau 
> ERP Systems Manager 
> polkaudio 
> 
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> 
> Another interesting consideration is seeing no response from anyone 
> within 
> Epicor to this thread. That tells me they have little to no interest in 
> U2 
> which is a red flag in my book. Certainly implies that they don't have 
> knowledgeable or extensive support for how Epicor interfaces or doesn't 
> with U2 in 
> general. 
> 
> Will Johnson 
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