<quote> I couldn't care less what Sun or MySql does; the MV market was built on rationality not inconvenient standards de'jour, so why should we have to "twiddle" with a simple reply due to some "technical" reason? Arghhhhh. </quote>
Sadly there is a large world out there that can't be ignored. As Larry put it, this is the usual way that most lists use. I run a couple of lists myself and this is normal behaviour. Perhaps one of the reasons why there aren't that many new people coming into the u2 arena is encapsulated in the response above. We, as a community, need to know what else is going on in the world. Unfortunately taking the insular path does not always work. The love of rationality has nowt to do with the real world. Regards --------------------------------------------------------------- ********** _/ ********** David Logan ******* _/ ******* ITO Delivery Specialist - Database ***** _/ ***** Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd **** _/_/_/ _/_/_/ **** E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **** _/ _/ _/ _/ **** Desk: +618 8408 4273 **** _/ _/ _/_/_/ **** Mobile: 0417 268 665 ***** _/ ****** ****** _/ ******** Postal: 148 Frome Street, ******** _/ ********** Adelaide SA 5001 Australia i n v e n t --------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2006 12:02 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations David: I'm reminded of the building contractor who, when asked why there's no lock on the front and back doors, replies that none of the other doors in the house have locks on them...besides, you'll get used to it. It is a constant in the IT industry that we are all forced to overcome the lack of rationality and simplicity. (I see where I need to change the "TO" address when I click reply otherwise the reply goes to you, unless I remember to click the "Reply to All" button and remove you so as to not remind you of the consequences of responding to the list). :-) <soapbox> This could be worse, but aren't we all tired of dealing with this constant bull$%!t of taking different paths to process similar events (email receipt). I couldn't care less what Sun or MySql does; the MV market was built on rationality not inconvenient standards de'jour, so why should we have to "twiddle" with a simple reply due to some "technical" reason? Arghhhhh. </soapbox> Please forgive my attitude; I've almost completed a D3 to UniData conversion project and have been wondering why any non-MV developer would ever use U2 and any MV developer would use UniData. I'm sure I'll get over this soon though. :-) Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Logan, David (SST - Adelaide) > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 3:58 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations > > This is a relatively minor change and the dark side of the > force seem to > be gathering strength against it. The list headers still have the u2ug > address in them and your rules should still apply. If not, then change > them so they do! > > Perhaps the dark side haven't really explained themselves well but I > can't understand what the fuss is about. There seem to be a number of > hypotheticals that assume people are incapable of managing change. > > I would note again, this is NOT a unique list situation. This is in > fact, a more common setup than one thinks. Perhaps somebody could > subscribe to the Sun Managers list, one does not reply to the > list, only > to the sender and the sender then publishes a summary, or > perhaps one or > two of the MySQL lists which use exactly this system. > > All lists to which I subscribe use their own methods for managing the > reply, you just get used to them. The subscribers to these > lists seem to > handle the situation quite well. In fact, I note recent > posters to this > list, have all managed to reply to the list without issue and > my outlook > rules have placed their messages in the correct folder. > > Regards > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > ********** _/ ********** David Logan > ******* _/ ******* ITO Delivery Specialist - Database > ***** _/ ***** Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd > **** _/_/_/ _/_/_/ **** E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **** _/ _/ _/ _/ **** Desk: +618 8408 4273 > **** _/ _/ _/_/_/ **** Mobile: 0417 268 665 > ***** _/ ****** > ****** _/ ******** Postal: 148 Frome Street, > ******** _/ ********** Adelaide SA 5001 > Australia > i n v e n t > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Nichol > Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2006 9:57 AM > To: Tony Gravagno; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: RE: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations > > At 14:03 27/02/06 -0800, Tony Gravagno wrote: > > >This is breaking all kinds of things including filters, > remailers, and > >maybe threading for some reader programs. It's going to create > confusion > >when people mail to one another off-list. And for anyone who isn't > >familiar with this completely unique solution people are > going to think > >they're responding to a list when they're responding to some person - > and > >we might start seeing ongoing inquiries about "hey, where did my > response > >go?" Sorry folks but I don't believe this is a good long-term > solution. I > >think we should go back to the way it was until a more standard > solution > >can be found. > > > >Tony > > For once, Tony, I totally agree with you.... All U2 list postings are > now > going to my "trash" bucket.... > > Please put it back to how it was... The knee jerk goes too > far t'other > way.... > > >Larry Hiscock wrote: > > > We have made some changes to the mailing list > configuration files in > > > an attempt to reduce some of the problems we have been > experiencing > > > these past few days. > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/270 - Release > Date: 27/02/06 > > Regards, > > Bruce Nichol > Talon Computer Services > ALBURY NSW 2640 > Australia > > http://www.taloncs.com.au > > Tel: +61 (0)411149636 > Fax: +61 (0)260232119 > > If it ain't broke, fix it till it is! > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/270 - Release > Date: 27/02/06 > ------- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/