Chill, Chuck! ;-) As Bruce Neylon pointed out, your emotions are leading you to distort things a tad. But, this is such a nice group that no one is going to attack you for venting or suggest that you not do that. Even if tomorrow you wish you'd waited to hit SEND no one here will jump down your throat for expressing yourself.
I don't believe anyone wants an un-moderated group -- I know I don't. And I think everyone would agree that the moderators have been doing a fine job and have contributed value to the list far in excess of their pay. So I vote to keep the list moderated. However there have been some valid questions raised, including these: * [AD] tagging - What are the rules? Who decides when a post is an ad? What is the punishment? [MY OPINION] If the sole purpose of a post is clearly to advertise a product it should be tagged in the subject line. Otherwise, we should allow a lot of slack and not worry about it. [/MY OPINION] [DISCLAIMER] I am a software vendor and was recently "cyber spanked" for a post which Charles (erroneously) categorized as touting a product. [/DISCLAIMER] * u2-community list - Should there be two lists? Who decides when a post should be moved or killed? [MY OPINION] There should only be one list and we should allow a lot of slack before killing a thread. If there are a lot of MP posts I guess that means that quite a few list members are enjoying that thread and I have no problem with it continuing a bit as long as I can identify related posts by subject line. Maybe the list should decide when enough's enough - perhaps five votes from list members to kill a thread? [/MY OPINION] * serious issues - What should cause a moderator to step in, kill a thread, reject a post, revoke list membership or take other serious action? [MY OPINION] Posting of pornography, obscene language, personal attacks against other members, racist or sexist comments, spamming the list, harvesting member addresses for spamming purposes or other posts that offend the list membership. Perhaps feedback from five members ought to be enough to revoke membership; I like the idea of the moderator assisting in the administration of a list that is actually run by the membership. [/MY OPINION] Jeff Fitzgerald -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Moderator Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:34 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2C] Religious Wars All, It is no secret that I vehemently disagree with making this an unmoderated list. So I'm going to take a poll. Everyone who is looking forward to no moderator intervention during the next GOTO war or Single Letter Variable war or next Monty Python Quote jamboree, please sound off your approval. All those who want to see personal attacks unsanctioned, sing out. And please take a moment to vote for obscene and inappropriate comments as well. <snip> - Charles Barouch, Moderator ------- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/