But what you are describing is connection pooling which is when you need
connection pooling licenses.

George


On 24/09/2009 23:27, "Ross Ferris" <ro...@stamina.com.au> wrote:

> David,
> 
> I think your "problem" may be that you are logging only when you get a
> request? If you were to have lines pre-logged-in, though the complexity
> of the middleware increases, you may find a corresponding increase in
> performance ... and with a little more effort you may also decide to NOT
> kill a used connection immediately, 'cause if you get another request in
> from the same client "soon", shouldn't be an issue using the previously
> used connection (that is still open)
> 
> Ross Ferris
> Stamina Software
> Visage > Better by Design!
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
>> boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton
>> Sent: Friday, 25 September 2009 5:47 AM
>> To: 'U2 Users List'
>> Subject: Re: [U2] Connection Pooling Statement
>> 
>> If you log off and on, it does satisfy the licensing - letter and
>> intent...
>> BUT usually the performance hit is so high that it FORCES you to
>> connection
>> pooling - or to have lots more seats!  Both of which make IBM-Rocket
>> happy.
>> <g>
>> 
>> I'm still wondering how they can get 175 users through 2 seats --
> unless
>> each user does 2 things a day!!
>> 
>> My understanding was that you either had to have a seat for each
>> 'logical'
>> connection to a user, or sign off/sign on between each 'thing' - and
> the
>> overhead for going off and on is INSANE in any way I've tried to make
> it
>> work...
>> 
>> So - I understand your point George -- I am in the same headspace!
>> 
>> David W.
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
>>> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George
> Land
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:32 PM
>>> To: U2 Users List
>>> Subject: Re: [U2] Connection Pooling Statement
>>> 
>>> On 24/09/2009 16:45, "Doug" <dave...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> George,
>>>> 
>>>> We do not do connection pooling or use multiplexing software.
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you did.  I was trying
>>> to make a general point that you need connection pooling
>>> licences if you connection pool however you do it.
>>>> 
>>>> We scale quite remarkable well.  We have 70 user client
>>> running a call
>>>> center with 10 Unidata licenses dedicated to the web.  We have a
>>>> public warehouse client with 4 licenses running 20 users internally
>>>> and 20 customers externally.  We have a 175 user running our CRM
>>>> system using 2 licenses.
>>>> 
>>> There is a general point here though, supporting 175 users on
>>> a 2 license system is exactly the situation IBM/Rocket are
>>> trying to address by forcing you to have connection pooling
>>> licences.  Now don't misunderstand me, I'm not accusing you
>>> of breaking the letter of the license agreement, but I think
>>> it is breaking the intention of it.  Quite what 'connection pooling'
>>> and 'multiplexing' really is can be debated, but essentially
>>> what they want is for you to pay more for databases licenses
>>> that support multiple users than you do that are tied to one
>>> user.  And having a small number of database licenses
>>> supporting a large number of users is exactly what you are doing
>>> 
>>> George
>>> 
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