Tony, thanks for your insights.  Thanks to others too.

My end users are criminal justice folks, so indeed a pretty focused
audience.
Based on that and several other considerations, I'm going to take a hard
look at AccuTerm.

Thanks-
Harold

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:10 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] ViaDuct problem

It's sort of weird to see AccuTerm being investigated like it's a
newcomer to be compared to SecureCRT.  I hope this review will be
helpful, by someone who has used them all.

Back in the late 80's to early 90's I was a ViaDuct fan.  Around
1994 I was introduced to wIntegrate and found it more capable.
Around 1995 I was introduced to AccuTerm and I found a permanent home.
AccuTerm is quite simply (IMHO) the best terminal emulator in the MV
industry.  It has a ton of features that every MV developer can
appreciate.  Just get it and start using it and you'll see what I mean.
There is a helpful user forum, a lot of people who know it very well,
excellent product support with rapid code changes if required, and you
can get AccuTerm GUI training.

No matter what you do, you're going to have to get away from ViaDuct,
and if you go to anything else there is going to be a lot of conversion
effort.  This is the price that's paid for building so heavily into a
specific product.  For better or worse you'd do the same thing with
AccuTerm but if you're going to "get in deep" with any product, this is
a reasonable one.

While I recommend AccuTerm GUI for a Pick developer who doesn't like to
use mainstream tools, I personally don't think it's right business
approach for a diverse end-user base.  It's thick-client only and
connects via Telnet or SSH.  That is a fine solution for focused
audiences.  If you have any interest in an extranet or internet audience
where a browser is used, then you may want to invest your time in
mainstream tools.  Personally I use AccuTerm all the time to get into
all MV environments while I'm building browser GUI - these things are
not in conflict.  AccuTerm does have "AccuTerm for Internet Explorer"
which is a plugin to allow browser users to access your system, but when
people say they want a browser UI this isn't what they have in mind.
Try it for yourself.

I should also mention that the AnzioWin terminal emulator from Rasmussen
Software (anzio.com) seems to be a more "apples to apples" competitor
for SecureCRT.  I wish I could take all the mainstream features of
AnzioWin and mash them up with the MV-specific features of AccuTerm.  I
actually use both of these products, having used SecureCRT, Putty, and
other mainstream options in the past.

If you go to PickWiki you'll see other emulators documented, including
Winnix which deserves a fair evaluation:
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TerminalEmulators

HTH
Tony Gravagno
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> From: Harold.Oaks
>I've always considered AccuTerm the 'other' main player in the MV 
>terminal emulator market, and thought about going to them but 
>conversion of the programs to use their forms would be a lot of 
>workwheras the code to run Viaduct forms is embedding subroutine calls 
>in
>the Basic code. That is, they are quite different.   
>Do others have an opinion of AccuTerm versus SecureCRT?

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