Hi, in the UK it used to be ANJEC that supported ViaDuct, there used to be a nice man called Dick Chatter who knew it inside out, don't know if he's still there or if they still support it but it could be worth an Email. There web site is www.anjec.co.uk. How do I know this? I worked there for a short time...
Cheers Les Sherlock Hewkin Senior Project Manager Finance & HR Systems, I.T. Department T 01604 592289, M 07917 856195 -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Oaks, Harold Sent: 28 December 2010 19:47 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] ViaDuct problem Tony, thanks for your insights. Thanks to others too. My end users are criminal justice folks, so indeed a pretty focused audience. Based on that and several other considerations, I'm going to take a hard look at AccuTerm. Thanks- Harold -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:10 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] ViaDuct problem It's sort of weird to see AccuTerm being investigated like it's a newcomer to be compared to SecureCRT. I hope this review will be helpful, by someone who has used them all. Back in the late 80's to early 90's I was a ViaDuct fan. Around 1994 I was introduced to wIntegrate and found it more capable. Around 1995 I was introduced to AccuTerm and I found a permanent home. AccuTerm is quite simply (IMHO) the best terminal emulator in the MV industry. It has a ton of features that every MV developer can appreciate. Just get it and start using it and you'll see what I mean. There is a helpful user forum, a lot of people who know it very well, excellent product support with rapid code changes if required, and you can get AccuTerm GUI training. No matter what you do, you're going to have to get away from ViaDuct, and if you go to anything else there is going to be a lot of conversion effort. This is the price that's paid for building so heavily into a specific product. For better or worse you'd do the same thing with AccuTerm but if you're going to "get in deep" with any product, this is a reasonable one. While I recommend AccuTerm GUI for a Pick developer who doesn't like to use mainstream tools, I personally don't think it's right business approach for a diverse end-user base. It's thick-client only and connects via Telnet or SSH. That is a fine solution for focused audiences. If you have any interest in an extranet or internet audience where a browser is used, then you may want to invest your time in mainstream tools. Personally I use AccuTerm all the time to get into all MV environments while I'm building browser GUI - these things are not in conflict. AccuTerm does have "AccuTerm for Internet Explorer" which is a plugin to allow browser users to access your system, but when people say they want a browser UI this isn't what they have in mind. Try it for yourself. I should also mention that the AnzioWin terminal emulator from Rasmussen Software (anzio.com) seems to be a more "apples to apples" competitor for SecureCRT. I wish I could take all the mainstream features of AnzioWin and mash them up with the MV-specific features of AccuTerm. I actually use both of these products, having used SecureCRT, Putty, and other mainstream options in the past. If you go to PickWiki you'll see other emulators documented, including Winnix which deserves a fair evaluation: http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TerminalEmulators HTH Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula R&D sells mv.NET worldwide and provides related development services remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno > From: Harold.Oaks >I've always considered AccuTerm the 'other' main player in the MV >terminal emulator market, and thought about going to them but >conversion of the programs to use their forms would be a lot of >workwheras the code to run Viaduct forms is embedding subroutine calls >in >the Basic code. 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