Thank you Mecki .... I appreciate your comment.





Regards,

Joe Chelston
Executive Recruiter

BSG Staffing Group LLC
PO Box 8651
Turnersville, NJ 08012

Phone:  856.218.1000
Fax:      856.228.8585
Cell:      856.422.4400
Email:  j...@bsgstaffing.com


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-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki
Foerthmann
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 5:09 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position

Forget it Tony.
I know Joe, he is genuine and actually got me a job once.

Mecki

On 07/04/2011 22:05, Tony Gravagno wrote:
>> From:Joseph Chelston
>> I'm just trying to limit competition from other recruiters by
> not
>> disclosing too much information on this forum.
>>
>> I apologize if this is a problem for anyone. I'm just trying
>> to find good
>> candidates and I know they are on this forum.
> I would offer that at this point we don't even know if you're in
> the right forum.  Could you at least offer the identity of the
> database platform hosted by your client?  Seriously, if you said
> "contact me about a SQL job" or "I need a programmer" don't you
> think you'd get the same kind of response as you've elicited
> here.  The Pick industry is much deeper than you seem to know -
> it's not all just "Pick".  You're not representing your client
> well but this situation can be salvaged productively and perhaps
> for you profitably.
>
> Here are the main issues so far:
> - We don't know what database your client has. It might not be
> U2.  You say "PICK Systems" which may actually be for a platform
> called D3 from the company formerly known as PICK Systems.
> - Lack of a website for BSGStaffing makes you look like a
> scammer.  Obviously you used to have some site and you have an
> email server.  Otherwise you personally have created a
> credibility problem for yourself, but again this can be remedied.
> - Asking for a system administrator is like asking for someone
> who can use a pencil.  We all qualify, so what are the
> differentiators.  Here are some skills that differentiate Pick
> people: Java, .NET, System Builder, RedBack, FlashCONNECT,
> Quibic, Temenos Banking, Avante/Dataflow/Manfact, Promax ...
> Insert the name of any MV industry software package or
> platform-specific tool.
> - Knowing the software is one thing but a sysadmin who knows the
> nature of the specific business is much more valuable than
> someone who doesn't.  Is this banking, retail, manufacturing,
> pharmaceutical, a medical practice?
>
> I could go on (as many here would attest).  You've jumped into a
> forum completely unprepared.  Drop me a note and I'll try to help
> you and your client to better craft your message - or at least to
> get it to the right audience.  Hopping into my business shoes
> here, you're supposed to be providing value to your client and
> you expect to be paid for it.  I will be happy to send you in the
> right direction on a pro-bono basis just to keep our colleagues
> here from getting further annoyed, but if you want more help in
> getting the right candidate for the position, I'll have the same
> expectations of fee for service as you have yourself.  You can
> decide after some exchanges if you want to go in that direction.
> If you don't know how to approach this market and you don't want
> to get some help to do so, then I recommend you find a different
> market to offer your services.
>
> Good luck,
> Tony Gravagno
> Nebula Research and Development
> TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com
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