what a horrible thought ... some things rightly belong in the trash can of history. Jet and Runoff are definitely in that category.
Brian Sent from my ASUS Eee Pad Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote: >Dig it up and market it because Universe is no longer offering JET. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian Leach <br...@brianleach.co.uk> >To: 'U2 Users List' <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> >Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:43 am >Subject: Re: [U2] Building an Excel File > > >IIRC didn't VMARK buy CompuSheet, at around the same time they bought JET? >t's probably lying around on and old QIC somewhere.. >I'd just written a JET and Ultiword emulator for UniVerse when they popped >p with JET. Grr.. but a long time ago. > >nd back to topic I second the "use Tony's tools" motion. Why waste time and >oney reinventing the wheel? >You make think your working time is free, but someone's paying for it!) >If you really need to call out from Excel (as opposed to building >preadsheets from the db) you can use VBA and UniObjects. >Brian >-----Original Message----- >rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org >mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Noah >ent: 07 February 2012 16:13 >o: U2 Users List >ubject: Re: [U2] Building an Excel File >Amen! I don't think I would want to go back to 9600 baud serial >ommunications, though. My first Reality "job" was contract programming >or a local service bureau, using an ADDS Viewpoint terminal and 300 >aud acoustical coupler. They handed me the terminal, modem and a set of >anuals and said "Have fun!". Dang, now I'm telling my age! >EasyCalc ran on Reality as well. Of course, it went the way of many of >he other dinosaurs. Now EasyCalc Googles to a scientific calculator on >ourceForge. I acquired the source code and rights to redistribute, but >hat never went anywhere. >If memory serves, Compusheet used a lot of abs frames for speed. EC was >ll Data/Basic. It was a bit slow recalculating a series of 600+ >preadsheets from the bottom up. The others in IT (then called Data >rocessing) didn't think I would be able to get it to work at all, but >t did. The sheets drilled all the way down to class enrollment and >aperclip counts, and rolled it all up to a top level , which they used >o feed their GL. >I probably should have taken this [OT], but I didn't know what effect >hanging the subject would have. >Charlie >On 02-07-2012 9:52 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: > Hm, don't remember EasyCalc, but Compusheet was on a Reality system. > It was so much easier when we only had to know what was native in our > own systems and not be concerned with a million different things to > connect to in the outside world! > -Dianne > > On 2/7/2012 10:45 AM, Charlie Noah wrote: >> Hi Dianne, >> >> You're telling your age here! ;^) >> >> Actually, it was EasyCalc, which was probably very similar to >> Compusheet. >> >> Charlie >> >> On 02-07-2012 9:30 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote: >>> Compusheet? I remember working with that! >>> -Dianne >>> >>> On 2/7/2012 6:50 AM, Charlie Noah wrote: >>>> Hi Bob, >>>> >>>> I don't suppose CrowFlite can be obtained these days, can it? It >>>> looks like Phil has retired. If it were available, would it work >>>> with the newer versions of Excel? What about Open Office? >>>> >>>> In the 80s I worked for a university in Florida, where we used a >>>> Pick-based spreadsheet modeled after Lotus 123. I built a series of >>>> spreadsheets which reached down into every aspect of the >>>> university's database, giving upper management an up to the minute >>>> view of the school's financial picture. I think it ended up being >>>> over 600 spreadsheets, but hey, fund accounting is complicated and >>>> we did still have the 32K limit. >>>> >>>> Fond memories. ;^) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Charlie Noah >>>> >>>> Tiny Bear's Wild Bird Store >>>> "Everything For The Backyard Bird Enthusiast, Except For The Birds" >>>> Info, Forum: http://www.TinyBearMarketing.com >>>> Store: http://Stores.TinyBearMarketing.com >>>> Toll Free: 1-855-TinyBear (855-846-9232) >>>> >>>> >>>> On 02-06-2012 10:57 PM, Bob Rasmussen wrote: >>>>> Makes one long for CrowFlite, doesn't it? >>>>> >>>>> For those that don't remember, CrowFlite was an add-in to Excel that >>>>> allowed it, at a per-cell level, to "reach back" into a Pick >>>>> database and >>>>> grab individual pieces of data. In other words, it was a "pull" >>>>> solution >>>>> as well as a "push". >>>>> >>>>> I'm cc'ing its creator, Phil Gerber, so he can reminisce about the >>>>> past >>>>> while reveling in the sights among the mountains of Oregon :-) >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, Tony Gravagno wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Not responding to any particular quote here, just the CSV topic >>>>>> in general. >>>>>> >>>>>> Respected colleagues, CSV is not Excel. If you have an end-user >>>>>> that asks for Excel and you give them a CSV you're just >>>>>> perpetuating the myth that Pick is a dinosaur. They will gladly >>>>>> spend tens of thousands of dollars to replace your application >>>>>> with something that creates real Excel (and PDF) despite the fact >>>>>> that such things can be attained at low cost or no cost right >>>>>> now. Trust me, I've seen it happen. >>>>>> >>>>>> This dove-tails with the reasons why people get 20 people to >>>>>> support Oracle when they can have 3 working on Pick. The reason >>>>>> is that the Oracle people say "yes", and give them pretty >>>>>> reports, when their Pick guys say "no", and give them plain text >>>>>> in columns and rows and call it "Excel". >>>>>> >>>>>> Please don't let that happen to you. Be sure you are properly >>>>>> responding to end-user requests. Just ask them what they do with >>>>>> the documents after you generate them. If they really just want >>>>>> raw data, OK. But if they go on to tell you how many days it >>>>>> takes to reformat the data, assemble the multiple CSVs into a >>>>>> single workbook, etc, then you have found a great deal of room >>>>>> for improvement. Yeah, I've been there too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Off the soapbox, thanks. >>>>>> T >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> U2-Users mailing list >>>>>> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >>>>>> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >>>>>> >>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > >______________________________________________ >2-Users mailing list >2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org >ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > >______________________________________________ >2-Users mailing list >2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org >ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > >_______________________________________________ >U2-Users mailing list >U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users