what a horrible thought ... some things rightly belong in the trash can of 
history. Jet and Runoff are definitely in that category.

Brian

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Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:

>Dig it up and market it because Universe is no longer offering JET.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian Leach <br...@brianleach.co.uk>
>To: 'U2 Users List' <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
>Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:43 am
>Subject: Re: [U2] Building an Excel File
>
>
>IIRC didn't VMARK buy CompuSheet, at around the same time they bought JET?
>t's probably lying around on and old QIC somewhere.. 
>I'd just written a JET and Ultiword emulator for UniVerse when they popped
>p with JET. Grr.. but a long time ago.
>
>nd back to topic I second the "use Tony's tools" motion. Why waste time and
>oney reinventing the wheel?
>You make think your working time is free, but someone's paying for it!)
>If you really need to call out from Excel (as opposed to building
>preadsheets from the db) you can use VBA and UniObjects.
>Brian
>-----Original Message-----
>rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
>mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Noah
>ent: 07 February 2012 16:13
>o: U2 Users List
>ubject: Re: [U2] Building an Excel File
>Amen! I don't think I would want to go back to 9600 baud serial 
>ommunications, though. My first Reality "job" was contract programming 
>or a local service bureau, using an ADDS Viewpoint terminal and 300 
>aud acoustical coupler. They handed me the terminal, modem and a set of 
>anuals and said "Have fun!". Dang, now I'm telling my age!
>EasyCalc ran on Reality as well. Of course, it went the way of many of 
>he other dinosaurs. Now EasyCalc Googles to a scientific calculator on 
>ourceForge. I acquired the source code and rights to redistribute, but 
>hat never went anywhere.
>If memory serves, Compusheet used a lot of abs frames for speed. EC was 
>ll Data/Basic. It was a bit slow recalculating a series of 600+ 
>preadsheets from the bottom up. The others in IT (then called Data 
>rocessing) didn't think I would be able to get it to work at all, but 
>t did. The sheets drilled all the way down to class enrollment and 
>aperclip counts, and rolled it all up to a top level , which they used 
>o feed their GL.
>I probably should have taken this [OT], but I didn't know what effect 
>hanging the subject would have.
>Charlie
>On 02-07-2012 9:52 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote:
> Hm, don't remember EasyCalc, but Compusheet was on a Reality system.  
> It was so much easier when we only had to know what was native in our 
> own systems and not be concerned with a million different things to 
> connect to in the outside world!
> -Dianne
>
> On 2/7/2012 10:45 AM, Charlie Noah wrote:
>> Hi Dianne,
>>
>> You're telling your age here! ;^)
>>
>> Actually, it was EasyCalc, which was probably very similar to 
>> Compusheet.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> On 02-07-2012 9:30 AM, Dianne Ackerman wrote:
>>> Compusheet?  I remember working with that!
>>> -Dianne
>>>
>>> On 2/7/2012 6:50 AM, Charlie Noah wrote:
>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>
>>>> I don't suppose CrowFlite can be obtained these days, can it? It 
>>>> looks like Phil has retired. If it were available, would it work 
>>>> with the newer versions of Excel? What about Open Office?
>>>>
>>>> In the 80s I worked for a university in Florida, where we used a 
>>>> Pick-based spreadsheet modeled after Lotus 123. I built a series of 
>>>> spreadsheets which reached down into every aspect of the 
>>>> university's database, giving upper management an up to the minute 
>>>> view of the school's financial picture. I think it ended up being 
>>>> over 600 spreadsheets, but hey, fund accounting is complicated and 
>>>> we did still have the 32K limit.
>>>>
>>>> Fond memories. ;^)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Charlie Noah
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On 02-06-2012 10:57 PM, Bob Rasmussen wrote:
>>>>> Makes one long for CrowFlite, doesn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>> For those that don't remember, CrowFlite was an add-in to Excel that
>>>>> allowed it, at a per-cell level, to "reach back" into a Pick 
>>>>> database and
>>>>> grab individual pieces of data. In other words, it was a "pull" 
>>>>> solution
>>>>> as well as a "push".
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm cc'ing its creator, Phil Gerber, so he can reminisce about the 
>>>>> past
>>>>> while reveling in the sights among the mountains of Oregon :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, Tony Gravagno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not responding to any particular quote here, just the CSV topic
>>>>>> in general.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Respected colleagues, CSV is not Excel. If you have an end-user
>>>>>> that asks for Excel and you give them a CSV you're just
>>>>>> perpetuating the myth that Pick is a dinosaur. They will gladly
>>>>>> spend tens of thousands of dollars to replace your application
>>>>>> with something that creates real Excel (and PDF) despite the fact
>>>>>> that such things can be attained at low cost or no cost right
>>>>>> now. Trust me, I've seen it happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This dove-tails with the reasons why people get 20 people to
>>>>>> support Oracle when they can have 3 working on Pick.  The reason
>>>>>> is that the Oracle people say "yes", and give them pretty
>>>>>> reports, when their Pick guys say "no", and give them plain text
>>>>>> in columns and rows and call it "Excel".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't let that happen to you.  Be sure you are properly
>>>>>> responding to end-user requests. Just ask them what they do with
>>>>>> the documents after you generate them. If they really just want
>>>>>> raw data, OK. But if they go on to tell you how many days it
>>>>>> takes to reformat the data, assemble the multiple CSVs into a
>>>>>> single workbook, etc, then you have found a great deal of room
>>>>>> for improvement. Yeah, I've been there too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Off the soapbox, thanks.
>>>>>> T
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