> From: Doug Averch > I saw this software many years ago at Spectrum > conference. So I clicked on the link to see what's > new. Most of the pages are dead and the ones that are > not are hopeless out of date. See your comment from > 2004 on http://www.mvtoolbox.com/Testimonials.1.html. > > I would be very worried that any product I get from > them would not be well supported if they cannot get > their web site in order.
I heard this from someone else too so I'll respond. Bro Cope, the author of mvToolbox has been putting his heart into this software for a couple decades. In short, mvToolbox is a character-based editor on steroids - it does what Pick people want but without an unfamiliar GUI which simply turns some people off. Doug - you, Brian L, Bob R, Pete S, Fred T, Doug L, myself, and others here have the same sort of passion for tools that we create for this industry. Bro invested in marketing a few years ago and unfortunately blew his budget without getting the returns required for the product to sustain itself. We've all been there. It's sometimes tough to get back on the horse - sometimes the horse runs away and we're left walking. So Bro has this really great software but an old and icky website, and not many venues for getting his software into the hands of people who can use it. He's even now offering it for free just to get it out there. He seems to suffer from the same missing gene as most of us Pick people - he's not a marketing guy and he isn't a web developer. OK, those skills aren't in his DNA and he doesn't have anyone else working for him. But I think people can cut him some slack and check out the fine offering despite the rough packaging. The software deserves it and so does Bro. The rewards for using his software can make the inquiry well worth the effort. The only problem with the software, IMO, is that it does a Lot more than any product should - it's like Photoshop where most people are used to PC Paint, it's MS Word where most people use Notepad (or AE or ED). And the documentation to support the deep functionality is overwhelming. I've suggested to him that he disable features to create a Lite product and upsell the Pro version once people "get it". It's a helluva thing to say a product does too much and is over-documented, but there ya go. It's for these reasons that I don't use the software daily myself, but that doesn't stop me from recommending it to others who spend more time in BASIC. Maybe if Bro can sell a couple licenses he'll be able to dedicate some time to cleaning up his website and trimming down his documentation. In the mean time, it costs people nothing (for a year?) for anyone here to just endure a little grief to get their hands on this software, and the benefits could be huge. Questions can be directed here: http://groups.google.com/group/mvtoolbox/about HTH T > Tony Gravagno wrote: > > mvToolbox is one of the best products in this > > industry, but it's largely unknown and thus seriously > > under-appreciated. Get a 1-year (!?) free trial: > > http://www.mvtoolbox.com > > > > No, I have nothing to gain from recommending this > > software. I am not a developer, sales rep, nor > > providing related services. It's just good software > > that deserves an occasional mention. _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
