Is there a definitive list of operations that makes something an iPhantom
vs. a phantom?  I know about sockets, but presume there is more, right?

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Brian Leach <br...@brianleach.co.uk> wrote:

> iPhantoms are any background that perform interactive operations, such as
> opening a socket or device. They consume a licence.
>
> FWIH some time back a couple of naughty sites were buying small numbers of
> users and opening ttys directly with phantoms so IBM blocked that. Now it
> catches all of us who legitimately want to make a web service or similar
> call in the background.
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> dean.armbrus...@ferguson.com
> Sent: 13 September 2012 23:32
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] [UD] LISTUSER output: phantom vs. iphantm
>
> What is the difference between LISTUSER USRTYPEs "phantom" and "iphantm"?
>
> On our systems, we will have 100 to 200 phantom processes, i.e. background
> processes, running at any given moment.  When I look at them via LISTUSER,
> they will be split approximately 60/40 between phantom and iphantm.  All
> were started using the PHANTOM verb.
>
> I can't discern a difference, and I can't find anything about it in the 7.3
> UniData documents.  A search for "iphantm" has no hits.
>
> This comes into play because it seems that SYSTEM(514) includes iphantm
> sessions in the count, but not phantom sessions.  We have a monitoring
> program that warns us if the number of users approaches the configured
> license limit, and it uses SYSTEM(514).  We built in for it to allow for a
> configurable amount of phantom processes.  If phantom processes may or may
> not be included in SYSTEM(514), our monitor program isn't as accurate as it
> could be.
>
> It seems to me that neither phantom nor iphantm should be included in
> SYSTEM(514).  HELP for SYSTEM(514) states that it returns the number users
> currently logged in and does not include phantoms.  Presumably, this is the
> number of licenses in use.  Do iphantm sessions use a license?
>
>
> UniData 7.3.1
> HPUX 11.31
>
> Dean Armbruster
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