Bingo. ________________________________________ From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] on behalf of Kevin King [ke...@precisonline.com] Sent: Friday, 26 April 2013 7:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information
Vmark + Unidata = Ardent -> Informix -> IBM - Rocket, right? On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM, David Taylor <da...@sysmarkinfo.com> wrote: > If I'm not mistaken, there was another company in between Vmark and IBM. > > I believe (and there may have been some smoke and mirrors in all this) > that Informatics "acquired" Ardent and then assigned the CEO of Ardent as > the President of Informatics, or something like that, to run both Ardent > and Informatics. And then later, IBM acquired Informatics for their > database and just inherited Vardent almost by accident. > > Then, I believe that IBM acquired Unidata and formed the U2 product group. > > Certainly someone (Suzie) at Rocket could clarify this and perhaps publish > an document for historical purposes to document this history completely > and accurately. > > Dave Taylor > Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. > > > > > Prime Computer out of Natick Massachusetts went out of business. One > > of their products was PR1ME INFORMATION. They were acquired by another > > computer, Computervision (Thank you Mark, I'd forgotten the name). > > > > The product PRIME INFORMATION was acquired by VMark. Vmark was later > > acquired by Ardent Software. > > > > I don't remember if there were any companies in between Ardent and IBM, > > and while this was going on, there was a separate history happening for > > Unidata. Net upshot was that IBM acquired both Universe and Unidata, > > and branded them as U2. > > > > Source - my memory, (such as it is). I started playing with PR1ME > > INFORMATION on a PR1ME 450-II back in 1978. > > > > I bought disk drives, controllers, and tape units off and on throughout > > the years from Computronix, specifically from Randy Styka, which is > > where I came into this conversation. > > > > > > > > On 4/26/2013 4:18 PM, Wjhonson wrote: > >> so explain that better > >> and whats the source? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Allen Egerton <aeger...@pobox.com> > >> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> > >> Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 12:58 pm > >> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD) > >> > >> > >> I didn't say vmark acquired prime. I said they acquired prime > >> information. > >> > >> (Allen - Sent from my paperweight) > >> > >> On Apr 26, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >>> That idea doesn't seem right Allen. > >>> I can't find any reference to Vmark acquiring Prime, after Prime's > >>> bankruptcy. > >>> One reference says that the Prime assets all went to ComputerVision, > >>> but it's > >> just a blog > >>> Anyone have a newspaper article link ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> > >>> To: u2-users <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> > >>> Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:58 am > >>> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD) > >>> > >>> > >>> I'll have to update the wiki poo pea a pages > >>> > >>> Who is the woman in this picture? > >>> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prime9950_kean.jpg > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Allen Egerton <aeger...@pobox.com> > >>> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> > >>> Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:31 am > >>> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD) > >>> > >>> > >>> Prime Information was a product running as an application on PRIMOS. > >>> > >>> It was acquired by Vmark and subsequently by Advent if memory serves > >>> me > >>> correctly. > >>> > >>> IBM acquired Universe and Unidata and subsequently sold them to Rocket. > >>> > >>> (Allen - Sent from my paperweight) > >>> > >>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I don't think Universe was ever Prime. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Allen Egerton <aeger...@pobox.com> > >>>> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> > >>>> Sent: Thu, Apr 25, 2013 5:06 pm > >>>> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 4/25/2013 5:36 PM, Randy Styka wrote: > >>>>> Hi! > >>>>> > >>>>> It's been a long time since I posted here but our company, > >>>>> Computronics, > >>>>> has sold a product called PEEK for Unix systems since 1993. It is > >>>>> most > >>>>> often used for remote support, to see what is on someone's screen. > >>>>> And, > >>>>> if needed to send keystrokes as if they were typing them, to help > >>>>> them > >>>>> out or close out programs. > >>>>> > >>>>> But one of the other uses is for logging. PEEK can be set up to fire > >>>>> off > >>>>> a background process when a user logs in. That process is > >>>>> independent of > >>>>> the user, and can run under another id. It can then write a log of > >>>>> either > >>>>> all keystrokes of the user (input only mode) or of input and the > >>>>> resulting > >>>>> output. Since it runs under a different id, the logs can be placed > >>>>> where > >>>>> you want and they can't be modified or accessed by the user being > >>>>> "peeked" > >>>>> on. > >>>>> > >>>>> If this is of interest, visit http://www.computronics.com and look > >>>>> for > >>>>> information on PEEK. The manuals are there and a free trial is > >>>>> available. > >>>>> Note we are UNIX only (we don't do Windows ;-) > >>>>> > >>>>> If you have questions, email me at ra...@computronics.com. Thanks! > >>>>> Randy > >>>>> > >>>>> > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >>>>> | Computronics Randy Styka, ra...@computronics.com > >>>>> | > >>>>> | 4N165 Wood Dale Road Phone: 630/941-7767 > >>>>> | > >>>>> | Addison, Illinois 60101 USA Fax: 630/941-7714 > >>>>> | > >>>>> | www: http://www.computronics.com > >>>>> | > >>>>> | for product information: i...@computronics.com > >>>>> | > >>>>> | for product support: supp...@computronics.com > >>>>> | > >>>>> > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >>>> > >>>> For what it may be worth; I'm happy to vouch for Randy and > >>>> Computronics > >>>> in general. They've been around for Universe since it was Prime > >>>> Information and have a stellar reputation. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Allen Egerton; aeger...@pobox.com > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> U2-Users mailing list > >>>> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > >>>> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> U2-Users mailing list > >>>> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > >>>> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> U2-Users mailing list > >>> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > >>> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> U2-Users mailing list > >>> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > >>> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> U2-Users mailing list > >>> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > >>> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > >> _______________________________________________ > >> U2-Users mailing list > >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> U2-Users mailing list > >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > U2-Users mailing list > > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
