I think that the amount of diverse replies on this topic indicates an inconsistency across platforms and that the use of a MV counter either derived or managed is clearly the best solution that a programmer can take to any MV environment, new or old. It would remove any suspicion to wonder if it's working or not. I've never been let down by a real counter.
 
If you were managing an array in another form of Basic then you would have to use a counter.
 
my 1 cent.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [UV] VARIABLE<-1> = "" and Basic Compile"$OPTIONSEXTRA.DELIM"work "consistently"

this is not exactly correct
 
while you are correct that the 3 statements result in 2 attributes,
the 2nd state does indeed have an effect
 
 
A='abc'                  ;* A=abc , len(A)=3
A<-1>=''                 ;* A=abc:@FM , len(A)=4
A<-1>='def'           ;* A=abc:@FM:def , len(A)=7
 
 
when EXTRA.DELIM is used the results are :
 
A='abc'                  ;* A=abc , len(A)=3
A<-1>=''                 ;* A=abc:@FM , len(A)=4
A<-1>='def'           ;* A=abc:@FM:@FM:def , len(A)=8
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [UV] VARIABLE<-1> = "" and Basic Compile "$OPTIONSEXTRA.DELIM"work "consistently"

Sorry for jumping in without checking my facts first.
 
You are right the sequence
 
A = 'abc'

A<-1> = ''

A<-1> = 'def'

results in A having TWO attributes NOT three.  The second

statement has no effect.  This is as it works on Windows XP Prof

and the Personnel version of UniVerse.  If my memory serves me

this is also how it works on UV9.6 on Unix (HPUX).  Again I think

the statement A<-1>='' is always ineffective.  UV without over-

riding options etc will never insert a null at the end of a string variable.

My experience is mainly with Pick flavour.

Louis

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [UV] VARIABLE<-1> = "" and Basic Compile "$OPTIONS EXTRA.DELIM"work "consistently"

The same documentation goes on to say:
 

In INFORMATION and IN2 flavor accounts, if _expression_ is an empty string

and the new element is appended to the end of the dynamic array, the end of

a field, or the end of a value, a delimiter is appended to the dynamic array,

field, or value. Use the -EXTRA.DELIM option of the $OPTIONS statement

to make the REPLACE function work as it does in IDEAL, PICK, and

REALITY flavor accounts.

In my opinion this behaviour is still unexpected and here is why I say so:

If Information behaves the same as PICK as you say, then the behaviour is still contrary to documentation because in the example I gave below, a @FM was still appended even if the string to be added was empty: i.e.

A = 'abc'

A<-1> = ''

A<-1> = 'def'

will result in 3 fields. According to the REPLACE extract you quoted, A<-1> = '' should not add a field mark regardless of whether A is empty or not for PICK flavour.

Marco

Marco,

As some previous replies were saying, the behaviour you describe is normal
and documented. The explanation for this is found in the "REPLACE" Basic
function, which is the equivalent for the angle brackets notation at the
left of an assignment operator ("=") for dynamic arrays handling.
For more information, please refer to the Basic documentation manual (File
"BASIC.pdf" in the CDROM library)

Here is an excerpt of the documentation :
----
REPLACE function

Syntax
REPLACE (_expression_, field#, value#, subvalue# { , | ; } replacement)
REPLACE (_expression_ [ ,field# [ ,value#] ] ; replacement)
variable < field# [ ,value# [ ,subvalue#] ] >
.../...
In IDEAL, PICK, PIOPEN, and REALITY flavor accounts, if replacement is an
empty string and an attempt is made to append the new element to the end
of the dynamic ar ray, field, or value, the dynamic array, field, or value
is left
unchanged; additional delimiters are not appended. Use the EXTRA.DELIM
option of the $OPTIONS statement to make the REPLACE function append
a delimiter to the dynamic array, field, or value.
.../...
----

The fact is that "UniVerse" is mainly designed to reproduce the behaviour
of legacy products in the "Pick" family. In this case, the implementation
of the "INFORMATION" and "IDEAL" flavour followed the default behaviour in
"Pick" native products.

I hope this answered your question.

Regards,

Hervé BALESTRIERI

Support Technique Avancé - IBM Data Management - Produits "U2"

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Hi All,

Consider the program:

A = ''
A<-1> = ''
A<-1> = ''
A<-1> = 3
A<-1> = ''
A<-1> = 4
PRINT A<3>

I expect it output '3' but it outputs '4'. Whats the explanation? I'm on UV
9.6 [NT] running information flavour.

Regards,
Marco



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