As I recall, the INSERT function with a -1 parameter always added the relevant field mark until one of the Microdata releases around 1979, when some bright soul in their engineering department decided that the extra null value at the end was 'irrelevant' and should not be added.  This change in behavior provoked a storm of protest at the next national conference, as all of us had incorporated code that used the -1 in sets of multi-valued attributes that needed to stay in sync. 
 
PO #
Item (mv'd)
Qty on order  (mv'd)
Qty in stock   (mv'd)
 
If there was nothing in stock for the third item on the Purchase Order, but there was stock for the fourth item on the Purchase Order, we all wanted the data to look like this
 
001  P001 @VM P002 @VM P003 @VM P004
002  50 @VM 20 @VM 40 @VM 30
003  10 @VM 20 @VM @VM 15
 
But instead, suddenly we were seeing 15 units onhand for P003 and no onhand for P004.  The 'irrelevant' data was very relevant in our applications, and the result of the change in behavior was significant (as in, what a nightmare, reprogramming every update routine that included that syntax!).
 
Microdata management understood our frustration and the subsequent release set the behavior back to always inserting the field mark.  However, most of us who lived through that Microdata release have steered clear of the -1 except for lists which are never going to have to synchronize with any other list.  It is safer not to assume that an engineer who does not understand how you are using the product is not going to change the behavior out from under you.
 
Susan M. Lynch
F.W. Davison & Company, Inc.
(781) 340-9255
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [UV] VARIABLE<-1> = "" and Basic Compile "$OPTIONS EXTRA.DELIM"work "consistently"

The same documentation goes on to say:
 

In INFORMATION and IN2 flavor accounts, if _expression_ is an empty string

and the new element is appended to the end of the dynamic array, the end of

a field, or the end of a value, a delimiter is appended to the dynamic array,

field, or value. Use the -EXTRA.DELIM option of the $OPTIONS statement

to make the REPLACE function work as it does in IDEAL, PICK, and

REALITY flavor accounts.

In my opinion this behaviour is still unexpected and here is why I say so:

If Information behaves the same as PICK as you say, then the behaviour is still contrary to documentation because in the example I gave below, a @FM was still appended even if the string to be added was empty: i.e.

A = 'abc'

A<-1> = ''

A<-1> = 'def'

will result in 3 fields. According to the REPLACE extract you quoted, A<-1> = '' should not add a field mark regardless of whether A is empty or not for PICK flavour.

Marco

Marco,

As some previous replies were saying, the behaviour you describe is normal
and documented. The explanation for this is found in the "REPLACE" Basic
function, which is the equivalent for the angle brackets notation at the
left of an assignment operator ("=") for dynamic arrays handling.
For more information, please refer to the Basic documentation manual (File
"BASIC.pdf" in the CDROM library)

Here is an excerpt of the documentation :
----
REPLACE function

Syntax
REPLACE (_expression_, field#, value#, subvalue# { , | ; } replacement)
REPLACE (_expression_ [ ,field# [ ,value#] ] ; replacement)
variable < field# [ ,value# [ ,subvalue#] ] >
.../...
In IDEAL, PICK, PIOPEN, and REALITY flavor accounts, if replacement is an
empty string and an attempt is made to append the new element to the end
of the dynamic ar ray, field, or value, the dynamic array, field, or value
is left
unchanged; additional delimiters are not appended. Use the EXTRA.DELIM
option of the $OPTIONS statement to make the REPLACE function append
a delimiter to the dynamic array, field, or value.
.../...
----

The fact is that "UniVerse" is mainly designed to reproduce the behaviour
of legacy products in the "Pick" family. In this case, the implementation
of the "INFORMATION" and "IDEAL" flavour followed the default behaviour in
"Pick" native products.

I hope this answered your question.

Regards,

Hervé BALESTRIERI

Support Technique Avancé - IBM Data Management - Produits "U2"

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Hi All,

Consider the program:

A = ''
A<-1> = ''
A<-1> = ''
A<-1> = 3
A<-1> = ''
A<-1> = 4
PRINT A<3>

I expect it output '3' but it outputs '4'. Whats the explanation? I'm on UV
9.6 [NT] running information flavour.

Regards,
Marco



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