And part if the "ost thing do not"is all my stuff. :-)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl



  haven't i seen a presentation again and again how this trend reverses every 
what, 10 years?
  so, maybe, soon, it'll all start moving back to the desktop/server less cloud 
again?

  some things belong in the cloud.  most things do not.

  (my take on things)


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steve Barnes 
    To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:34 AM
    Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


    I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a cloud 
based management tool. 

     

    However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app and 
not having a web UI for our phones and other devices.  When Ben Moore said that 
we would not have to worry about that in the next version I kind of thought 
about a hosted solution, but thought “Oh surly not”.

     

    Another point that I want to make is that US WISPs are not their largest 
market.  I am sure that it is a large market for them but not the largest.  I 
expect they are trying to be uniform across all their platforms worldwide.  I 
assume we will see Unifi and Mfi eventually go ALL Cloud based. Everything from 
AP, CPE, Router, WiFi, Lights, Phones, Cameras, and even thermostat controlled 
from the cloud. 

     

    The hacking possibility of all this is huge.  But everything I see is 
moving this way.  The local school Corp in our area just released 2 techs and 
converted ever thing they could to virtual off-site with remote monitoring and 
control of all equipment from WiFi Aps and Net Switches to Servers and 
workstations.  The IT Manager says he loves the reduced work load but sees now 
he has handed the keys to someone else and has a lot less control.  All he does 
now is move wires and swap equipment. 

     

    All the NEST products, personal IP Security Cameras all are already in the 
cloud. The general techy populous are starting to except it.  I think lots of 
WISPs will be less likely since they feel less in control of their networks and 
we are all about control. But I don’t think we are going to stop this trend.

     

    Steven Barnes

    GM

    PCSWIN.com

    Howard LLC.

     

    From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
    Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 10:37 PM
    To: Ubiquiti Users Group
    Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

     

    Well right. That's why I said few and not none.



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    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions
    http://www.ics-il.com






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    From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com>
    To: "ubnt users" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
    Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:36:33 PM
    Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

    It was in alpha for 7-8 months before it hit the "public" beta today.

josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/01/2014 06:25 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

      It was announced today, so few are familiar.



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      Mike Hammett
      Intelligent Computing Solutions
      http://www.ics-il.com




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      From: "Robert Andrews" <nos...@avantwireless.com>
      To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
      Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:22:29 PM
      Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

      Ok, but when the device contacts the cloud why can't the cloud at that 
point start the update?   I'm not really familiar with the product but what is 
the frequency of the cloud to ground discharge ( or the other way around )...



      On 12/1/14 7:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

        The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection 
to the cloud.

        (to be fair)

josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your 
management adoption for the investors, but nuts dead simple if they are on your 
cloud system...   And if the FCC changes the rules....   Guess what can be 
forced to update for compliance with or without your say so... Hmmmmm  On 
12/1/14 4:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:Why would 
I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of myradios?  Don't 
they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?But it's CLOUD. 
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