AirPrism was/is supposed to return to us the benefits, (adjacent channel rejection, improved sensitivity), of the original dual superheterodyne Hermes I and Intersil Prism II chipsets as opposed to the current direct conversion Atheros chipsets.

I don't see a major use for it in clients, but for an AP, it could be worth quite a bit to me.

I'm currently using cavity filters on my multi-AP towers to prevent co-channel interference in 2.4GHz. This, of course, destroys my frequency agility.

Just for the fun of it, I went over and played with some old Intersil cards I still have around.

I can run 3 AP's on 1,6 and 11 using those old cards and get full speed thru them all in the same room... That just doesn't work with the newer cards...

I really hope this works the way we need it to...

To Ben:

I'd be interested in testing the 2.4GHz gear in a fairly tough environment here if you have need...

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On 12/10/2014 10:06 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Well, these have the AirPrism chip. I don't remember the other having it..

Regards,
Chuck

On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com <mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:

Multi-lane-Rf != airprism?

I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an "Earlier Version" type thing. Is that not correct?
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com
On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
No, that wasn't the hardware.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net <mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:

    Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was
    the beta
    hardware for this?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On
    Behalf Of Philip Dorr
    Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM
    To: Ubiquiti Users Group
    Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

    Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or
    is someone
    developing a custom chip?

    On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com
    <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:
    > They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being
    > released...so it will be staggered.
    >
    > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway
    > <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
    > wrote:
    >>
    >> Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the
    Powerbeam/Nanobeam
    >> DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015?  I'm really trying to
    >> schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> rory
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    >> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>]
    >> On Behalf Of RickG
    >> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM
    >>
    >>
    >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
    >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Ben Moore via wispa.org <http://wispa.org>
    >>
    >> 3:17 PM (10 hours ago)
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> We already have these in transit.  I would expect DFS to be
    available
    >> on these early next year.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway
    >> <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> I might have missed this but does the AC product line support
    U-NII 1
    >> and DFS?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Rory
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    >> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>]
    >> On Behalf Of Ben Moore
    >> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM
    >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
    >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1.  You can see current
    >> performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted
    >> shortly.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H
    <wi...@calbroadband.com <mailto:wi...@calbroadband.com>> wrote:
    >>
    >> Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'.
    >>
    >> I assume the backward compatibility will result in a
    performance hit.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards
    compatibility...
    >> but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately
    means no
    >> backwards compatibility.
    >>
    >> On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
    >> > Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time
    before
>> > being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There
    >> > are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior
    to adding
    >> > backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first
    before
    >> > adding more variables).
    >> >
    >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes
    <st...@pcswin.com <mailto:st...@pcswin.com>
    >> > <mailto:st...@pcswin.com <mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >     Ben, I asked before but haven't gotten word, can you
    speak to the
    >> >     Backwards compatibility of the new units?____
    >> >
    >> >     __ __
    >> >
    >> >     *Steven Barnes____*
    >> >
    >> >     GM____
    >> >
    >> > PCSWIN.com <http://PCSWIN.com>____
    >> >
    >> >     Howard LLC.____
    >> >
    >> >     __ __
    >> >
    >> >     *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    >> >     <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>
    >> >     [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    >> >     <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
    >> >     *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >     *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
    >> >     *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____
    >> >
    >> >     __ __
    >> >
    >> >     Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this
    one is PTP
    >> >     locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).____
    >> >
    >> >     __ __
    >> >
    >> >     On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard
    <mat...@litewire.net <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>
    >> >     <mailto:mat...@litewire.net
    <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>>> wrote:____
    >> >
    >> >         Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if
    the only
    >> >         Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my
    desk. :p
    >> >
    >> >         So is the only difference with this new Rocket
    AirPrism, or are
    >> >         there other  changes as well? ____
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    >> > -----
    >> >
    >> >         *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    >> >         <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>
    >> >         [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    >> >         <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>] on behalf of Ben Moore
    >> >         [ben.mo...@ubnt.com <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
    <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>>]
    >> >         *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM____
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >         *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
    >> >         *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____
    >> >
    >> >         __ __
    >> >
    >> >         ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW
    tools being
    >> >         added (especially the persistent spectrum
    analyzer...lots that
    >> >         can be done with that). Will send out some details
    shortly on
    >> >         PTMP networks in the wild ;)____
    >> >
    >> >         __ __
    >> >
    >> >         On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
    >> >         <mat...@litewire.net <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>
    <mailto:mat...@litewire.net <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>>>
    >> > wrote:____
    >> >
    >> >             ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed
    they were the
    >> >             same ones. I guess I should actually read
    stuff. This is
    >> >             what happens when you don't make new stuff look
    different
    >> > :p
    >> >             ____
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    >> > -----
    >> >
    >> >             *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    >> >             <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>
    >> >             [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    >> >             <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>] on behalf of Mike
    >> >             Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
    <mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
    >> >             <mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
    <mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>>]
    >> >             *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
    >> >             *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
    >> >             *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____
    >> >
    >> >             Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.
    >> >
    >> >             The e-mail didn't really make it clear that
    there were new
    >> >             things, just the same platform hype we had 14
    months ago. I
    >> >             didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it
    didn't look
    >> >             any different.
    >> >
    >> >             Ooooohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new
    >> > software?____
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >             -----
    >> >             Mike Hammett
    >> >             Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >> > http://www.ics-il.com
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+Intellige
    >> >
    ntComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intell
    >> > igent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>____
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    >> > -----
    >> >
    >> >             *From: *"Ben Moore" <ben.mo...@ubnt.com
    <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
    >> >             <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
    <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>>>
    >> >             *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"
    <ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>
    >> >             <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>>
    >> >             *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
    >> >             *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____
    >> >
    >> >             The 3 new products announced today: ____
    >> >
    >> >             __ __
    >> >
    >> >             R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only____
    >> >
    >> >             NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam____
    >> >
    >> >             PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam____
    >> >
    >> >             __ __
    >> >
    >> >             Also, all of the software updates:____
    >> >
    >> >             __ __
    >> >
    >> > http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/____
    >> >
    >> >             __ __
    >> >
    >> >             Some highlights:____
    >> >
    >> >             __ __
    >> >
    >> >             - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)____
    >> >
    >> >             - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio
    - accurate
    >> >             assessment of channel conditions____
    >> >
    >> >             - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF
    >> >             Diagnostics, etc...)____
    >> >
    >> >             - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE____
    >> >
    >> >             __ __
    >> >
    >> >             The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced
    >> > shortly.____
    >> >
    >> >             __ __
    >> >
    >> >             Thanks,____
    >> >
    >> >             Ben____
    >> >
    >> >             __ __
    >> >
    >> >             On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard
    >> >             <mat...@litewire.net
    <mailto:mat...@litewire.net> <mailto:mat...@litewire.net
    <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>>>
    >> > wrote:____
    >> >
    >> >                  We have a couple of links up... I haven't
    really seen
    >> >                 any problems with them.
    >> >
    >> >                 I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at
    least I
    >> >                 hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no,
    nothing
    >> > new.____
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    >> > -----
    >> >
    >> >                 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    >> >                 <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>
    >> >                 [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
    >> >                 <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>] on behalf of
    >> > Mike
    >> >                 Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
    <mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
    >> >                 <mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
    <mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>>]
    >> >                 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM
    >> >                 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
    >> >                 *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____
    >> >
    >> >                 For those of you that have them...  are they
    >> > working well?
    >> >
    >> >                 Was there anything new in their
    announcement today? It
    >> >                 didn't seem like it.____
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >                 -----
    >> >                 Mike Hammett
    >> >                 Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >> > http://www.ics-il.com
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+Intellige
    >> >
    ntComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intell
    >> > igent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>____
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