Finally I found out what happened - the customer's tech was having a
problem with setting up a static public IP address on his little Linksys
WiFi router on our Mikrotik port that was set up as a CPE  - router, DHCP,
NAT, etc.

So he simply went to our equipment enclosure and plugged into a bridged
port!

His router has some kind of problem that will bring our network down if
it's directly connected.  He won't do that again.  Time for a lock on the
enclosure...

And we still need to route our fast-growing network.

Turns out this wasn't an Ubiquiti/Netonix/Mikrotik problem at all.

Thanks for listening!   :)

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

> I’d put my money on a false positive.
> (a negative in this case)
>
> *From:* James Wilson
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 6:47 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Help!
>
> The stations are in router mode, that;s one of the reasons why this is a
> surprise...  Still doing a post mortem.
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Shawn C. Peppers <
> videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This kind of thing is why i am a huge fan of putting the station device
>> in router mode.  Customers connecting layer2 to my tower setup has always
>> seemed a bad idea to me.
>>
>> Shawn C. Peppers
>> Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
>> 866-680-8433 <(866)%20680-8433> Toll Free
>> 480-287-9960 <(480)%20287-9960> Fax
>> http://www.video-direct.tv
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2017, at 5:28 AM, James Wilson <ja...@ridgecomms.com> wrote:
>>
>> Stuart he was simply trying to set up a way to control something remotely
>> with a static public IP address.
>>
>> Apparently one of us was doing something wrong that caused a loop that
>> Netonix caught.
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2017 6:24 AM, "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 99.86% sure it's paranoia, but I'd like to know what Mr. WILSON ( sorry I
>>> was channeling my inner Dennis ) thinks the customer was setting up.
>>>
>>> On Thu, January 26, 2017 12:53 am, RickG wrote:
>>> > Ya know, I've always suspected UBNT CPE leaks or am I just paranoid?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:41 PM, James Wilson <ja...@ridgecomms.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Looks like a customer with a static public IP was setting up
>>> something.
>>> >>  Even though he is on a routed port of a switch (our CPEs are routed)
>>> >> something he did somehow caused a loop.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jan 25, 2017 9:04 PM, "Eric Tykwinski" <eric-l...@truenet.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> I just tested STP on my little home AirRouter running v6.  Running
>>> >>> RSTP
>>> >>> on the Cisco and bridged on the AirRouter with STP enabled, it never
>>> >>> went to blocked on either port.  I think there might be a bug in v6
>>> >>> for STP. Weird part was switch was still saying rstp, and I think
>>> >>> AirOS only
>>> >>> supports STP.   I might dig a bit further later on…
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Chris Soiles <csoi...@riocities.net>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could be some kind of crosstalk and thinking it's a loop
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I usually turn off STP unless I know there is multipath in that
>>> >>> segment
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sent from iPhone 6S Plus
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Chris Soiles
>>> >>> Owner
>>> >>> Rio Cities
>>> >>> csoi...@riocities.net 505-966-6389
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 5:18 PM, James Wilson <ja...@ridgecomms.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We didn't have STP enabled on any of the ports.  This is strange -
>>> >>> these devices have been working together for a year.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It's been stable for several minutes now that I turned off loop
>>> >>> protection.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Don't see how I could get a loop in one device.   ???
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thank for coming to the rescue!   :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 7:15 PM, James Wilson <ja...@ridgecomms.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> I just did some Google searches and turned off Loop Protection in
>>> >>>> the Devices/Configuration page.  So far ok...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> >>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> If you DEFINITELY don't have a bridge loop (like two backhauls
>>> >>>>> going to this tower, both of which go to the same collision
>>> >>>>> domain) you can disable port 2 from the STP.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman
>>> >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> >>>>> Suite 1337
>>> >>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 7:09 PM, James Wilson
>>> >>>>> <ja...@ridgecomms.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I have a very straightforward flat network, no OSPF, etc.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Tonight I started losing connection and traced it back to a
>>> >>>>>> Netonix
>>> >>>>>> switch. The connection is up for a minute then the Netonix
>>> >>>>>> switch turns off the AF5X's port.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Below is what it's log is saying.  I don't understand how the
>>> >>>>>> AF 5X
>>> >>>>>> that's connected to the port can cause a loop.  Help!   Thanks!
>>> >>>>>> :)
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 17:39:37 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 17:42:39 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 17:43:38 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 17:46:40 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:03:04 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:06:05 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:06:39 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:09:40 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:15:17 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:18:18 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:22:19 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:25:21 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:25:38 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:28:40 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:34:13 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:37:14 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:37:22 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:40:24 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:41:37 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:44:39 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:45:37 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:48:39 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:49:33 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:52:35 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:53:39 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 18:56:41 Loop
>>> >>>>>> protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 18:58:36 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 19:00:36 UI:
>>> >>>>>> Configuration changed by admin (172.19.3.6)
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 19:00:36 UI: Port 2 STP: changed from 'Disabled' to
>>> >>>>>> 'Enabled'
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 19:01:38 Loop protection: re-enabling port 2
>>> >>>>>> Jan 25 19:02:38 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
>>> >>>>>> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds
>>> >>>>>>
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