We aligned them no side lobe here

used alignment scope and borrowed a laser aligner from a

Verizon friend just to make sure

Loved that laser one but 12,000 is a little more than I can spend right now LOL


On 10/21/2017 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I had a 2 and 3 foot dish working with Rockets for years.  Tried swapping to af5x and couldn't even associate!

After so much hassle back and forth etc we discovered the dishes were misaligned.  Rockets did 60 megs where af5x wouldn't associate.

Af5x works a LOT better aligned than Rockets side lobed.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Oct 21, 2017 4:52 PM, "Mitch" <mi...@abetterwireless.com <mailto:mi...@abetterwireless.com>> wrote:

    Plain old UBNT 2 foot dishes have had for years


    On 10/21/2017 3:49 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote:
    What antenna do you have with the AC?  That really is the
    difference.

    Thanks,
    Ben

    On Oct 21, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com
    <mailto:mi...@abetterwireless.com>> wrote:

    Yet Support says it's "Thermal Ducting" Hmm

    Thank Mike I finally came to the same conclusion ..... atleast
    for the 19 mile link

    Now just got to figure out why the 9 mile link sucks as well


    On 10/21/2017 3:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
    The AF5 only has 23 dBi antenna. There's no way it'll work well
    at that distance.

    Also, you're comparing 23 dBi antennas to 29 - 31 dBi antennas.
    That 12 - 16 dB difference is most of what you're missing when
    comparing to the other link.



    -----
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    *From: *"Mitch" <mi...@abetterwireless.com>
    <mailto:mi...@abetterwireless.com>
    *To: *"Mike Hammett" <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
    <mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
    *Sent: *Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:05:56 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes

    We have installed a 22.6 mile link in Missouri that works very
    well the AF5

    tried a AF5U at it never even linked up

    This link has been up and running for almost 3 years


    On 10/21/2017 2:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

        The AF5 just isn't meant for distance. Look at the antenna
        gain differences.


        -----
        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
        
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        *From: *"Mitch" <mi...@abetterwireless.com>
        <mailto:mi...@abetterwireless.com>
        *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
        <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>
        *Sent: *Saturday, October 21, 2017 2:52:53 PM
        *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes

        Yes did discuss no resolve

        as well as AF5 and AF5U

        Installed AF5X tuned them took them out put in RM5 tuned
        put AF5X back in changed from 2 to 3 foot dish ....

        all this on a 9.2 mile link gave up bought AF5 and they
        don't work very well for 9.2 mile link

        either getting better performance from the R5C Gen 2s

        Have a 19.6 mile link with AF5U that sucks (-76 to -77) and
        the

        2 foot dishes next to them with R5C Gen 2 out perform the AFs

        hands down RF (-56 to -60) and data

        But been told by support it's "Thermal Ducting" 20 dB
        difference

        units 10 feet from each other on same tower same elevation


        On 10/21/2017 2:43 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote:

            Have you discussed with support?  You had them
            installed, but they never linked up?

            Thanks,
            Ben

            On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Mitch
            <mi...@abetterwireless.com
            <mailto:mi...@abetterwireless.com>> wrote:

                LOL

                I have two AF5xs that I have never gotten to link
                up or pass traffic

                no matter what I have done and looking they are out
                of warranty

                LMAO what luck

                Guess I might have to give em away

                Mitch


                On 10/21/2017 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

                    For electrical or mechanical reasons?

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
                    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    On Oct 21, 2017 2:17 PM, "Clay Stewart"
                    <cstew...@scsbroadband.com
                    <mailto:cstew...@scsbroadband.com>> wrote:

                        Yes for both, but I would put an X adapter
                        kit on the RD-5G30 to get 45 degree polarity.

                        On Thu, Oct 19,  2017 at 11:39 AM, Josh
                        Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
                        <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

                            Do these Ubnt dishes work (without
                            modification) with the af5x radio?

                            RD‑5G31‑AC
                            RD-5G30

                            Josh Luthman
                            Office: 937-552-2340
                            <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
                            Direct: 937-552-2343
                            <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
                            1100 Wayne St
                            Suite 1337
                            Troy, OH 45373

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