We have about 40 af5x links and all of them perform as they should. You have two small of antennas for a shot that long. Need at least 3' antennas and good fresnel clearance. With proper alignment and tuning, they will kick just about any backhauls ass.
On Oct 21, 2017 5:27 PM, "Mitch" <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote: > I am kinda nervous to spend more on the AF line even for the AF11x > > After three types of AF have failed and costs so far are over 6000.00 in > dishes > > R5C, AFx, AF units, and AF unit shipping to return replacements that > failed (2) > > with in a few days ??? > > Kinda tired of spending and not working you know? > > Mitch > > On 10/21/2017 5:18 PM, Phil Curnutt wrote: > > Had a 12 mile AF5 link that was very marginal because of distance, plus it > was a bitch to align. Replaced with AF11FX on 35dB dishes and it works > like a champ. Dropped them right into the AF5 mount and they linked right > up and only need a tweak in alignment. I'm guessing about a 5-7 mile link > is about max for an AF5 to get 8x modulation. Also, have an AF5X link at 8 > miles with a 34db at the Slave end and a 30dB at the Master end and it to > works great. > > Phil > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote: > >> We aligned them no side lobe here >> >> used alignment scope and borrowed a laser aligner from a >> >> Verizon friend just to make sure >> >> Loved that laser one but 12,000 is a little more than I can spend right >> now LOL >> >> On 10/21/2017 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >> I had a 2 and 3 foot dish working with Rockets for years. Tried swapping >> to af5x and couldn't even associate! >> >> After so much hassle back and forth etc we discovered the dishes were >> misaligned. Rockets did 60 megs where af5x wouldn't associate. >> >> Af5x works a LOT better aligned than Rockets side lobed. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Oct 21, 2017 4:52 PM, "Mitch" <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote: >> >>> Plain old UBNT 2 foot dishes have had for years >>> >>> On 10/21/2017 3:49 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote: >>> >>> What antenna do you have with the AC? That really is the difference. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ben >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote: >>> >>> Yet Support says it's "Thermal Ducting" Hmm >>> >>> Thank Mike I finally came to the same conclusion ..... atleast for the >>> 19 mile link >>> >>> Now just got to figure out why the 9 mile link sucks as well >>> >>> On 10/21/2017 3:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>> The AF5 only has 23 dBi antenna. There's no way it'll work well at that >>> distance. >>> >>> Also, you're comparing 23 dBi antennas to 29 - 31 dBi antennas. That 12 >>> - 16 dB difference is most of what you're missing when comparing to the >>> other link. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Mitch" <mi...@abetterwireless.com> <mi...@abetterwireless.com> >>> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> >>> <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> >>> *Sent: *Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:05:56 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes >>> >>> We have installed a 22.6 mile link in Missouri that works very well the >>> AF5 >>> >>> tried a AF5U at it never even linked up >>> >>> This link has been up and running for almost 3 years >>> >>> On 10/21/2017 2:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>> The AF5 just isn't meant for distance. Look at the antenna gain >>> differences. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Mitch" <mi...@abetterwireless.com> <mi...@abetterwireless.com> >>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>> <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>> *Sent: *Saturday, October 21, 2017 2:52:53 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes >>> >>> Yes did discuss no resolve >>> >>> as well as AF5 and AF5U >>> >>> Installed AF5X tuned them took them out put in RM5 tuned put AF5X back >>> in changed from 2 to 3 foot dish .... >>> >>> all this on a 9.2 mile link gave up bought AF5 and they don't work very >>> well for 9.2 mile link >>> >>> either getting better performance from the R5C Gen 2s >>> >>> Have a 19.6 mile link with AF5U that sucks (-76 to -77) and the >>> >>> 2 foot dishes next to them with R5C Gen 2 out perform the AFs >>> >>> hands down RF (-56 to -60) and data >>> >>> But been told by support it's "Thermal Ducting" 20 dB difference >>> >>> units 10 feet from each other on same tower same elevation >>> >>> On 10/21/2017 2:43 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote: >>> >>> Have you discussed with support? You had them installed, but they never >>> linked up? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ben >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> LOL >>>> >>>> I have two AF5xs that I have never gotten to link up or pass traffic >>>> >>>> no matter what I have done and looking they are out of warranty >>>> >>>> LMAO what luck >>>> >>>> Guess I might have to give em away >>>> >>>> Mitch >>>> >>>> On 10/21/2017 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>> For electrical or mechanical reasons? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Oct 21, 2017 2:17 PM, "Clay Stewart" <cstew...@scsbroadband.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes for both, but I would put an X adapter kit on the RD-5G30 to get >>>>> 45 degree polarity. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Josh >>>>> Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Do these Ubnt dishes work (without modification) with the af5x radio? >>>>>> >>>>>> RD‑5G31‑AC >>>>>> RD-5G30 >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340> >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343> >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing >>>> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing >>> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing >>> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing >>> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing >> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > >
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