Having a single makes sense...

Having a 5-pac makes sense...

the 2-pac doesn't make any sense I can see...

Unless you are attempting to do make a 'wireless wire' pre-configured PtP link in which case the 2-pac doesn't go far enough.

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On 8/13/2018 1:27 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote:
As for the bold statement, I am not sure what is looked for here other than we are firmly committed to continuing to grow in the WISP space and I think our product development will prove that out.  We have recently released AF products, AirMax products, new routers and switches, made significant enhancements to our free UNMS, etc..More cool stuff to come designed to grow the WISP business and provide tools and products that are needed in the industry.

There were actually quite a few requests for this.  Many customers wanted to purchase singles or 2-pack and did not want distributors breaking up a 5-pack and then having goods arrived damaged as they were not setup for shipping that way.  Anyway, the point has been made and 5-pack brought back.  This decision shouldn't have been made in the first place.

Thanks,
Ben

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Kees H. <wispau...@calbb.net <mailto:wispau...@calbb.net>> wrote:

    Ben, with all due respect.  I do not see that BOLD statement that
    Steve requested.
    And for wisps requesting this for ptp links.  We are a small
    wisp.  We would never buy only 2 for a just a ptp link.  Yes we do
    have some ptp links, but the ratio of ptmp v ptp is maybe 1 
    -200.  Even as a small wisp we stock 5 packs for all our usage. 
    Why would any wisp request a 2 pack for that?
    And yes, when I found that the new PB 2 ACs that just arrived came
    in 2 packs I cancelled my order.
    *From:* Ben Moore via Ubnt_users
    *Sent:* Monday, August 13, 2018 7:48 AM
    *To:* Steve Barnes
    *Cc:* b...@ubnt.com ; Ubiquiti Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti commitment to WISPs
    Hi Steve -
    No question the 2-pack was poor decision.  This was never designed
    for retail, but can definitely see it looks like it with the
    packaging.  The 2-pack was due to many using for quick ptp links
    with their WISP.  Had a lot of request for selling as singles or
    2-pack for this purpose.  The 5-pack should never have been
    dropped and as mentioned here is shipping again.
    We have a ton in development for the WISP community and looking
    forward to it.
    Regards,
    Ben
    On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com>
    wrote:

        This is again another time that UBNT eyes have moved off the
        WISP target and moved to the Retail space.  The reason for 2
        in a box is simple if you’re selling to retail small
        businesses.  You would sell these as a link for 2 buildings. 
        Therefor you need a 2 pack.  If you were selling them on
        Amazon or B&K a 2 pack is perfect.

        I know that the 5 packs are coming back eventually.

        Ben Moore and James Craig.   This is my request to Ubiquity to
        make a BOLD statement in some way that shows your commitment
        to the WISP community and your appreciation to those of us
        that have stuck by your side through years of "soon GPS",
        Elevate, 2-pack CPEs, poor supply chain planning and many
        other goofy decisions you have made over the years that have
        made us defend out position to stay with UBNT as our Primary
        Vendor.  It is time for a little appreciation.

        Steve Barnes
        Wireless Operations Manager
        New Lisbon Broadband
        NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>
        PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>
        765-584-2288 ext:1101

        -----Original Message-----
        From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
        <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> On Behalf Of Kees H.
        Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 8:42 PM
        To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
        Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

        then he should fire the guy who came up with the 2 packs.


        -----Original Message-----
        From: G. Nicholas
        Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 3:19 PM
        To: Ubiquiti Users Group
        Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

        Troy,

        Regarding personnel change at the top highly unlikely. Robert
        Pera still owns about 70% of the stock and if you look at the
        600 Million in stock repurchases the company recently did so
        he could sell back some of his shares to Treasury stock
        without diluting his ownership control to get the cash he
        needs to buy up the minority shares of Grizzlies BB team,
        Robert is still clearly in control.



        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
        Sent: 8/12/2018 3:50:36 PM
        To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
        Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

        > Lots of things in play when you miss the $20 million call
        for expected
        quarter results.   Investors want answers and blood for lost
        value, so timing is perfect, but I bet there may be some
        personal change at the top of UBNT too.

        Troy Gibson
        Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
        -------- Original message --------From: Mathew Howard
        <mat...@litewire.net>
        Date: 8/12/18  2:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ubiquiti Users Group
        <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues
        Cambium The fact that they did this just a couple weeks before
        their next report makes me suspect that service provider
        revenue fell even more this quarter.

        ________________________________________
        From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
        [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Seth Mattinen
        [se...@rollernet.us]
        Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 1:14 PM
        To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
        Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

        On 8/12/18 11:01 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
        > People didn’t buy. Move on. Good months and bad. Don’t
        like it?Â
        > Stop investing. Any other questions?
        >


        Previous quarter: We'll see at least $20 million in this
        sector by next quarter!

        This quarter: Uh, actually we didn't see any of that money,
        but it was our competitor's fault so we sued them.
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