On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:36:43AM -0200, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> Hi Daniel,

Hi José,

> What version of ubuntu are you running?

12.10

> Are you running unity 2d or unity 3d?

Not sure, is there a method to check?
I just installed straight from the livecd as of last night, so what
would that likely mean?
> 

> >1. How do I see the list of all my applications? I press the windows key
> >and then attempt to arrow around, but this does not work. I read that
> >this is the method to view the entire application list with unity...
> >So how to do this with orca?
> 
> The win key or the alt+f1 is used to see the list of the prefered
> applications or the running applications.
> I never found how to se all applications using unity 2d.

Yes I'm finding the same can find common application, but not all. Oh
well that's not a huge problem for me atm. 

> 
> >Also, on a bit of a side note, what is a better choice from an
> >accessibility point of view, gnome-shell or unity? Is there some reason
> >why unity is the default on ubuntu?
> 
> Personally I prefer gnome-shell, but canonical decided to adopt
> unity as the default.

I suppose I'll try gnome-shell on ubuntu then I can decide which one to
go with easily. 
I'm use to gnome-shell so maybe that's why I'm having some bad luck with
unity.
> >2. In Some applications are not working quite right. In Libreoffice calc
> >when I use the arrow keys to navigate the spread sheet I do not get any
> >spoken feedback from orca.
> >Also in both writer and calc (possibly other apps, but that's all I've
> >tested so far) I can not access the menu bar by using alt or alt+f.
> >Is there a solution to this one?
> Did you try the f10 key to access the menu bar?

Does not work. If I press alt by itself I hear somethin hud or hub. 
Using arrows does not do anything here though. 
I'll try gnome-shell though and hopefully this problem might disappear. 

> 
> >3. I've just installed emacspeak from source on ubuntu, using
> >espeak. When I run emacspeak with espeak I experience regular crashes on
> >average one every few minutes.
> >Obviously this is quite annoying, so I was hoping there might be a fix
> >around.
> >I'm also experiencing almost identical problem on debian, but my best
> >solution so far is to revert back to alsa. Is this also the best
> >solution for ubuntu?
> I can not say about this topic, but I think that it is not so easy
> revert to alsa in ubuntu.

Yes, your probably right. 

> 
> >I'm presuming this will also be an issue when I get around to installing
> >speakup, as it was on debian also.
> >
> >4. My final problem: I'm attempting to build and install speakup as
> >kernel modules.
> >First I tried installing module-assistant and doing the following as
> >root:
> >m-a prepare
> >m-a a-i speakup
> >
> >The build process failed though. Is my best option for now to build the
> >modules from source out of git?
> >
> you do not need build speakup in ubuntu because there is  a package.
> sudo apt-get install speakup espeakup

Thanks for clarifying made it a lot easier!:)
> The problem is that you can not use speakup and the gui environment
> using the same login.
> What I do in general is to login in the console as root and su - my
> real login.

Hmm, this is very interesting. Do we know why yet? Because would
speakup/espeakup be running as root anyway? 
Maybe this is a pulseaudio issue again similar to what I found on
debian, but then again it also seems quite different. 
I shall keep investigating anyway. 

> >I hope this can help in some way.

It is very helpful, thank you very much. 

Daniel 

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