Ken and xl (once again great effort xl): Do you think this might be a wonderful opportunity to attempt and ease off of the stuck-in-this-mindset conservativism by implementing a small yet significant change to Ubuntu?
I believe this can be accomplished by making the shift to Murrine with a custom configuration. Dial down the nasty naff gloss and hone it into something _close_ to current Ubuntulooks? Judging from xl's work thus far, it appears he might be able to put the leg-work into getting the config file polished enough for Hardy's release. At least then we have a starting point for the real fight... Sincerely, TJS
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