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http://www.electro-store.org > From: ubuntu-art-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6 > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:34:20 +0100 > > Send ubuntu-art mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-art-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-art-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-art digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Improving What We Do! (Hrafn Nordhri) > 2. Re: [Ayatana] Meerkat volume control design > (Matthew Paul Thomas) > 3. Re: Improving What We Do! (Thorsten Wilms) > 4. Re: Improving What We Do! (Matthew Nuzum) > 5. Re: Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) (John Baer) > 6. Re: Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) (Martin Owens) > 7. Re: Improving What We Do! (Thorsten Wilms) (John Baer) > 8. quick intro (Jason Rebuck) > 9. Re: Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) (Thorsten Wilms) > 10. Re: Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) (marco bernich) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:01:46 -0400 > From: Hrafn Nordhri <hr...@hrafnsvartr.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! > To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: <4cb6d50a.8000...@hrafnsvartr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 10.14 2010 04:46, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > It still looks like many lost interest when it became clear that the > > Ubuntu default theme and wallpaper is off-limits. It would be up to > > representatives of Xubuntu/Edubuntu/Lubuntu to make those projects > > appear attractive to contributors in the design realm. > > I would say this is one thing that killed it for me. It really feels > like anything we do here is ignored or put off in some dark corner. If > this is not the case, then I have been mislead.. I haven't been active > on the list because of this impression I have. That said, I haven't left > the e-mail list in hopes that this could change. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:50:16 +0100 > From: Matthew Paul Thomas <m...@canonical.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] [Ayatana] Meerkat volume control design > To: "ayat...@lists.launchpad.net" <ayat...@lists.launchpad.net> > Cc: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: <4cb6d258.7030...@canonical.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dylan McCall wrote on 13/10/10 18:08: > >... > > Right now a regular menu item is used as a title in one place > > (Rhythmbox), and an action in another (Mute). The font and spacing is > > identical in both cases. > >... > > It's an action in both cases. > > - -- > Matthew Paul Thomas > http://mpt.net.nz/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAky20lgACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecqqMACgysAkrpBacDxuDhokCmCX7tne > scIAmwcDq8ibQ/N7FxDUHekMxXIW28lk > =pkAk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:22:44 +0200 > From: Thorsten Wilms <t...@freenet.de> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <1287062564.1694.159.ca...@charly> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 22:06 -0400, John Baer wrote: > > > To begin the dialog and to move this effort along I created a Wiki > > page here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Blueprint > > Nice effort to explain things with a diagram. > > With elements of classic flowcharts, you could make it clearer that Stop > is the outcome of "Can it be done?" answered with No. Like here (as > horrible as the gradients and shadows are): > http://www.edrawsoft.com/images/examples/Process-Flowchart.png > > I don't understand why "Join Team" is in that place. Sure, it's a > precondition for "Create Submissions", but how is it directly related to > "Identify Process/Tools"? > > Layout-wise, I'd try to avoid rotated text. How about one color per > role/actor? > > > The process narrative and list of actors are useful and close to what I > think should happen (not that I have a perfectly clear picture in my > mind). The text might become friendlier to an international audience if > we can avoid words like "facilitate", "solicit", "mitigate", "eligible". > > I think one of "Coordinator", "Organizer" or "Planner" will be easier > understood than "Facilitator". > > Maybe "Client" in place of "Owner"? Typically not responsible for the > schedule (except deadline) and not able to define requirements all on > their own. > > > Thanks! > > -- > Thorsten Wilms > > thorwil's design for free software: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:45:44 -0500 > From: Matthew Nuzum <n...@bearfruit.org> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! > To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <aanlktimotqtvcwjcsao8a1d_vcn4g+cqelhnkm58i...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Hrafn Nordhri <hr...@hrafnsvartr.com>wrote: > > > On 10.14 2010 04:46, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > > It still looks like many lost interest when it became clear that the > > > Ubuntu default theme and wallpaper is off-limits. It would be up to > > > representatives of Xubuntu/Edubuntu/Lubuntu to make those projects > > > appear attractive to contributors in the design realm. > > > > I would say this is one thing that killed it for me. It really feels > > like anything we do here is ignored or put off in some dark corner. If > > this is not the case, then I have been mislead.. I haven't been active > > on the list because of this impression I have. That said, I haven't left > > the e-mail list in hopes that this could change. > > > > > Hi, please don't let that scare you off. In the last few releases the > community has had a greater impact. The flickr pool backgrounds, dust, and > new wave are all from the community. Icons are always in demand. > > Also, the software center provides an opportunity for community themes to > get increased visibility. > > Do it because you love to do it and share your work, not because you want to > be the default desktop experience. > > -- > Matthew Nuzum > newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, identi.ca and twitter > > "An investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -Benjamin Franklin > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20101014/96f8becd/attachment-0001.htm > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:25:37 -0400 > From: John Baer <bae...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > <aanlktincmbcle=rrxz0cu_phlo79f+kwao4rbfo1c...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:48 AM, <ubuntu-art-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com>wrote: > > > Message: 3 > > From: Martin Owens <docto...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! > > > > On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 22:06 -0400, John Baer wrote: > > > Martin you stated in a post on 10/07 your intent to attend UDS. Sadly > > > I can not join you but I and others would like to contribute to > > > discussions in some other manner. I share the same time zone as UDS > > > but I am generally unavailable during the day. > > > > > > Perhaps some impromptu evening meetings on the IRC would be > > > beneficial. :) > > > > If there aren't enough people at UDS from the Art Team, then we may end > > up having to have a real meeting. > > > > My first thoughts on this team is that we need real software to manage > > job requests, announcements (blogs/feeds etc) and submissions. The wiki > > is a stop gap in my opinion which needs a nice and healthy replacement. > > There is no shortage of candidates and we could move more towards debian > > with cchost or more towards fedora with (er, I forget the name) with > > their art management software. We have lots of choice here and I'd be > > happy to head it up and collect together requirements. > > > > Martin, > > > > Martin, > > I like what I see with ccHost and there may be expertise ( *Bryce? ) *to > help mold it into a useful tool. > > The openclipart site looked good ( http://www.openclipart.org/ ). > > However, a couple of questions come to mind. > > 1. Will Canonical host it? If not, then who? > > 2. What does Canonical plan to do with the current Wiki and when. > > John > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20101014/c71a20be/attachment-0001.htm > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:56:08 -0400 > From: Martin Owens <docto...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) > To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: <1287104168.1700.6.ca...@marcus> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 20:25 -0400, John Baer wrote: > > 1. Will Canonical host it? If not, then who? > > I have and know many options for hosting, I don't think it'll be a > problem with a medium bandwidth website like this. > > > 2. What does Canonical plan to do with the current Wiki and when. > > I don't think the wiki site is just used for art. > > Martin, > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:57:06 -0400 > From: John Baer <bae...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! (Thorsten Wilms) > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > <aanlktinuhovhm0pqxu7gtddbmsuk9xoffocsejnip...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thorsten, > > Thanks for all your comments. I certainly understand your frustration with > the Wiki. > > I wonder how the "Ubuntu Weekly News Team" feel about the tool? They submit > a lot of wiki content. > > As for the Artwork Team, if the wiki went away what impact would it have? > > John > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20101014/2efe67a8/attachment-0001.htm > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:34:29 -0700 > From: Jason Rebuck <jason.reb...@gmail.com> > Subject: [ubuntu-art] quick intro > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <4cb7bdb5.4010...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > Hello everyone, > > My name is Jason. I think I might be able to help out (or at least give some > input). I was a graphic arts major in college and have been doing graphic/web > design for the past 5 years. I've been using ubuntu as my main OS for the > past 3 years. I mainly use Adobe CS at work, but I've started to feel > comfortable around Gimp and Inkscape. I know PHP,Python and some Perl and > Bash scripting. This summer I built my second Linux From Scratch/BLFS system. > > ~Jason > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:26:16 +0200 > From: Thorsten Wilms <t...@freenet.de> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <1287131176.1623.22.ca...@charly> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 20:25 -0400, John Baer wrote: > > > I like what I see with ccHost and there may be expertise ( Bryce? ) to > > help mold it into a useful tool. > > > > The openclipart site looked good ( http://www.openclipart.org/ ). > > Personally, I would avoid anything based on PHP. It's amazing what > people build with that poorly designed language, but it still doesn't > make it look like a god choice. > > > > 1. Will Canonical host it? If not, then who? > > I would not count on Canonical. Especially not on any buy-in prior to us > having something in our hands. I think there's a "words are cheap, see > who actually delivers" at work, combined with everyone being busy enough > already. > > After making sure we will tackle the right problem, the primary concern > on the technical side should be cutting down the required development > effort. Not at the cost of justified features, but by starting with an > informed choice of language and framework. Even if that makes hosting > more difficult/expensive, as developer time is very precious. > > We could try to collect donations for hosting, once there is something > to show. > > > > 2. What does Canonical plan to do with the current Wiki and when. > > There's a theme update in the pipeline, but AFAIK that's all they plan > to change regarding the wiki. > > What all the other teams and Canonical want to use for their > collaborative documentation needs is up to them. > > What I have in mind will be for this team and anyone else who wants to > work on design/artwork in the FLOSS realm in a structured way. Not tying > it to Ubuntu will only make it more valuable, as GNOME, application > projects and even other distributions could use it, too. > > > -- > Thorsten Wilms > > thorwil's design for free software: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 05:34:18 -0300 > From: marco bernich <marcobern...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) > To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <aanlktinpd8ol8mfz=zwvrvu7lnk8e3mh+2wpwm0ny...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > Personally, I would avoid anything based on PHP. It's amazing what > > people build with that poorly designed language, but it still doesn't > > make it look like a god choice. > > > > What language would you like? i like python! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20101015/1316fb9a/attachment.htm > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > End of ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6 > *****************************************
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