Heya Andre, > When I first decided to use Ubuntu as "my" operating system, I did offer my > services (expertise gained after many years in the NSW Public Service system) > but my offer was ignored (that was in 2006).
Does anyone have a link to this in the mailing list archives? I'm interested in which expertise and how they can be applied to the team. > There is something seriously amiss here - e.g. no structure, no > administration, no cohesion. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I am a member of the ubuntu beginners team and recently there was a lot of structure and administration introduced, and quite a few members have since felt the team has changed radically from its original goals and left. In my opinion we have a very (very) fine line for these sorts of teams between being generally a social group that attempts to spread the word where it can and a bureaucratic mess. > All the above may be of no interest to anyone - consider it as gratuitous if > you wish to what follows. Not to take away from the loco but on the ubuntuforums and launchpad would love your help! As was quoted to me recently there's about 500 bugs for every 1 developer, and a lot of those are duplicates, me and kermaic are both apart of the 5 a day team (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day) but you don't have to go that far, even just answering a couple posts in ABT would be enough to warrant joining (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam) So your help is definitely wanted, it's just directing it in the right area, in regards to directing your help specifically at this loco: > Where is the leadership for the Australian Team? Waving a stick pretending > to be the moral guardian is not sufficient. What exactly do you expect to happen? Remembering we do have the issue of being a country wide loco. - David/IKT On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Andre Mangan <andreman...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Andrew, > > I hope that this is the right place to offload some of my frustrations. Like > you I also have a family life and I am able to sacrifice limited time to > Ubuntu. I have been quite active in the Ubuntu Forums, Launchpad and > LinuxQuestions until I could no longer afford the time to devote myself to > answering questions relating to the Ubuntu operating system and as a > consequence have withdrawn considerably (I have many other things to do). > > When I first decided to use Ubuntu as "my" operating system, I did offer my > services (expertise gained after many years in the NSW Public Service system) > but my offer was ignored (that was in 2006). > > Attempts to make contact with the local Linux User Group resulted in no reply > as did a letter to Linux Australia relating to the local Linux user group. > > Discouragement at every step. > > I learnt how to find my own solutions and survived. I must acknowledge the > support of a few Ubuntu friendlies and new friends that made my path bearable. > > All the above may be of no interest to anyone - consider it as gratuitous if > you wish to what follows. > > Thank you for posting the meeting log. How disappointing that the governance > issue was not raised. It is really important. > > I rise with the sun and go to bed soon after it sinks, hence my absence from > the meeting - 9 p.m., in my opinion, is for those who have nothing else to do > or are waiting for something to happen to justify their insomnia...but then I > might just be one of the old-timer Australians with a different set of values. > > Reading the meeting summary, it seems to me that the meeting was largely a > meaningless fiasco - and who appointed Scott Evans as a moderator (not that I > have anything against him)? > > Where is the leadership for the Australian Team? Waving a stick pretending > to be the moral guardian is not sufficient. > > There are so many willing people but no-one to harness all this energy. > > There is something seriously amiss here - e.g. no structure, no > administration, no cohesion. > > Please repair as soon as you can. If I can help, count me in. > > Andre > > > > > > > > On 16 March 2010 16:58, AndrewG <gande...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Here is the log file for last nights meeting, for anybody that missed >> it. >> Ubuntu-au governance was not talked about. >> >> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2010/03/15/%23ubuntu-au.html >> >> -- >> ubuntu-au mailing list >> ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
