On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:31 AM Mattia Rizzolo <mapr...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> Hello hello,

sorry for the delay! and thanks for the feedback :)

>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 11:26:17AM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Charter
>
> I still find weird that this document doesn't include a provision that
> requires the TB to ACK any change to it, but I understand that they
> don't want it, so meh…
>
> The document states that the team chair will be "approved" (? should
> this be "appointed" instead?) with a process specified in the Policies
> page, but I can't seem to see a paragraph describing that.  TBH, I would
> just list it in Charter §5.3 instead, just saying "The chair shall be
> elected with a majority vote within the current team members; the
> current chair has a casting vote" or something similarly simple.  This
> is so to avoid another possibly useless cross-document reference.

agreed; I updated the page with this change:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Charter?action=diff&rev1=13&rev2=14

as well as adding a small clarification for 'casting vote':
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Charter?action=diff&rev1=14&rev2=15

>
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Policies
>
> Can we drop the possibility of people joining the team with just a IRC
> meeting agenda item?  I really want a full email with link to LP
> profile, etc... else my mind really can't work on it.

ack, updated with:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Policies?action=diff&rev1=12&rev2=13

let me know if you think we should add more detail to what needs to be
provided in the application email; or if we want a full application
wiki page (I think we probably don't need that?)

>
> The voting doesn't seem to have any provision for a casting vote? (which
> "obviously" should be in the hands of the team chair (which… in case the
> meeting chair is a different person, the casting vote is still in hands
> of the team chair, hopefully it's obvious).

To clarify, you mean the chair should have only a casting vote? Not
both a normal and casting vote, right? And to be sure I understand -
by 'casting vote' you mean a vote used only to break a tie.

If it's a choice between only a normal or only a casting vote, I think
I'd prefer the chair have just a normal vote (which could speed up
voting in the case of missing members), but I'm ok with a casting vote
instead.

If you mean having an additional casting vote (in addition to the
chair's normal vote), I would probably lean towards just letting tie
votes fail, but if you think it would be better to allow an
(additional) casting vote for ties, I'm ok with that.

>
>
>
> These details are the only points I have to make on the two documents.
>
> Thank you for working on them, and sorry it took me forever to read
> through them -.-
>
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