After discussion in today's backports team meeting, all content has
been removed from the charter page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Charter
and the policies page has been updated:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Policies

Please review the updated policies page, as I'd like to call a vote to
approve it as our official team rules/policies at the next team
meeting, on Dec 21.

Thanks!

On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 10:26 AM Dan Streetman <ddstr...@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:31 AM Mattia Rizzolo <mapr...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello hello,
>
> sorry for the delay! and thanks for the feedback :)
>
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 11:26:17AM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote:
> > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Charter
> >
> > I still find weird that this document doesn't include a provision that
> > requires the TB to ACK any change to it, but I understand that they
> > don't want it, so meh…
> >
> > The document states that the team chair will be "approved" (? should
> > this be "appointed" instead?) with a process specified in the Policies
> > page, but I can't seem to see a paragraph describing that.  TBH, I would
> > just list it in Charter §5.3 instead, just saying "The chair shall be
> > elected with a majority vote within the current team members; the
> > current chair has a casting vote" or something similarly simple.  This
> > is so to avoid another possibly useless cross-document reference.
>
> agreed; I updated the page with this change:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Charter?action=diff&rev1=13&rev2=14
>
> as well as adding a small clarification for 'casting vote':
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Charter?action=diff&rev1=14&rev2=15
>
> >
> > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Policies
> >
> > Can we drop the possibility of people joining the team with just a IRC
> > meeting agenda item?  I really want a full email with link to LP
> > profile, etc... else my mind really can't work on it.
>
> ack, updated with:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Policies?action=diff&rev1=12&rev2=13
>
> let me know if you think we should add more detail to what needs to be
> provided in the application email; or if we want a full application
> wiki page (I think we probably don't need that?)
>
> >
> > The voting doesn't seem to have any provision for a casting vote? (which
> > "obviously" should be in the hands of the team chair (which… in case the
> > meeting chair is a different person, the casting vote is still in hands
> > of the team chair, hopefully it's obvious).
>
> To clarify, you mean the chair should have only a casting vote? Not
> both a normal and casting vote, right? And to be sure I understand -
> by 'casting vote' you mean a vote used only to break a tie.
>
> If it's a choice between only a normal or only a casting vote, I think
> I'd prefer the chair have just a normal vote (which could speed up
> voting in the case of missing members), but I'm ok with a casting vote
> instead.
>
> If you mean having an additional casting vote (in addition to the
> chair's normal vote), I would probably lean towards just letting tie
> votes fail, but if you think it would be better to allow an
> (additional) casting vote for ties, I'm ok with that.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > These details are the only points I have to make on the two documents.
> >
> > Thank you for working on them, and sorry it took me forever to read
> > through them -.-
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> >                         Mattia Rizzolo
> >
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