<devil's advocate-mode>
Well... to be completely honest... if you take the cell phone as an
example... historically I've never been able to change the OS on my GSM.
So in a certain way the same could be argued for computers...
</devil's advocate-mode>
Hope the MEP's clear this one out, and MS & hardware vendors start will
grow a new conscience again...
Maybe it's time (pre-emptive) to shout out in non-tech channels about
the "bad thing" that MS is trying to pull off and how it will affect me
and you and everyone...
Here are some techniques that can be used:
(and that marketing also use)
- a photo of a crying baby has more effect than statistics on child
mortality (use vivid examples, make it personal)
- little near-future effects trigger more "urgency" than long-term
bigger effects
Obviously,there's also the option of FUD, but I agree that I'd rather
not lower myself to that standard (even though it should be told if
there actually is something to be afraid of).
Just my 2-pence...
Grtz,
Jurgen
On 09/23/2011 10:43 PM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
There was something similar a few months ago with a Cell Phone that was
locked.
The judge decided that the phone was designed for "all" mobile
providers, therefore the mobile provider "restricted" the use of the
device although it was intended to do more.
Result: every person who wanted the device to be unlocked could ship it
for free and the company had to unlock them..
Let us hope we get a better result in this case though..
Grts
Wouter Vandenneucker
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:35:26 +0200
From: sulu...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?
I have doubts on the legality of that kind of strategie microsoft is
trying to pull up
On 2011-09-23 22:32, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
EPFSUG is already talking about shouting it out to some MEP's in
order to make sure the rights of the users are guaranteed ..
I guess this isn't the last we heard from it. (And that's a good thing!)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:16:48 +0200
From: vinc...@mangelschots.org <mailto:vinc...@mangelschots.org>
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?
Microsoft does require that the hardware ships with UEFI secure boot
enabled but it also states that it will support the unsecured boot
process. If so then it's up to the hardware vendors to make it
optional.
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/76961/microsoft-secure-boot-blokkeert-andere-besturingssystemen-niet.html
(dutch)
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Pieter Vande Wyngaerde
<pietervandewyngae...@gmail.com
<mailto:pietervandewyngae...@gmail.com>> wrote:
UEFI secure booting (part 2) via planet.debian.net
<http://planet.debian.net>:
very good good article @ http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html
(Part 1 here: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5552.html)
from the article:
These are the facts:
Windows 8 certification requires that hardware ship with UEFI secure
boot enabled.
Windows 8 certification does not require that the user be able to
disable UEFI secure boot, and we've already been informed by
hardware
vendors that some hardware will not have this option.
Windows 8 certification does not require that the system ship
with any
keys other than Microsoft's.
A system that ships with UEFI secure boot enabled and only includes
Microsoft's signing keys will only securely boot Microsoft operating
systems.
...
The truth is that Microsoft's move removes control from the end user
and places it in the hands of Microsoft and the hardware
vendors. The
truth is that it makes it more difficult to run anything other than
Windows. The truth is that UEFI secure boot is a valuable and
worthwhile feature that Microsoft are misusing to gain tighter
control
over the market. And the truth is that Microsoft haven't even
attempted to argue otherwise.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jurgen Gaeremyn
<jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be <mailto:jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be>>
wrote:
> Have a read here:
>
>
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/will-windows-8-block-users-from-dual-booting-linux-microsoft-wont-say/10772
>
> Grtz,
> Jurgen.
>
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