> Finally, I'll note that Fedora folks haven't really been complaining about 
> this, so far as I know. 
> Which should make people ask the question, "why is Ubuntu different"?

This, to me gets to the root of the loggerheads displayed in this bug.
The reason Ubuntu is different is because it is *more* likely (I
suspect) to be deployed as a personal use desktop. Since it gets thrown
onto any number of laptops and such, it is used with a large array of
relatively new hardware (I am on a Dell d830 right now -- about a year
old). Binary drivers? Fact of life. Without the nvidia driver I'd not
use Linux. Sorry, the user experience matters.

This use model conflicts with the "no binary drivers" ivory tower
mentality. Sorry, but under windows this stuff just works. If you accept
that Linux is a serious desktop os, you'll have to live with the reality
of binary drivers, lousy programmers, etc. While ext4 has some wonderful
performance and behavior, and came claim to being "correct" as far as
POSIX goes, it's a bit much to be a spec lawyer when usage models that
work cease to do so.

I understand your point, and even agree that it is an app error by the
spec. But this puts users in the situation of having their machines fail
where they didn't use to. As soon as they move to ext4. Accurate
explanations won't change that impression.

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