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Cheers, Randall. On 10-05-06 05:25 PM, Faldegast wrote: > >>> In general i think that we really need task forces in plural. >>> >> Agreed, but some we already have some (like kernel hackers, X.org guys, >> people who build desktop environments, ...). >> > I know that a few project have very organized task forces. However > neither of those you mention shows much of that. > > >>> There are a lot of overlapping projects. One example is that KDE and Gnome >>> should merge, at least when it comes to key technologies. >>> >> That would certainly help to reduce the desperate shortage of manpower. >> > > >>> 1. We need a standardized method for embedding objects. Like Java Beans and >>> OLE/ActiveX in Windows. I mean how do you view a office document in a VS >>> application, or create a PDF report? You find an ActiveX that can do it. >>> KDE has KParts and Gnome has something similar, but we really need a >>> standard for this. Or in other words we need a standard for Custom >>> Controls. In OLE/ActiveX an object can be inproc (dynamically or statically >>> linked) or out of proc (external server process that starts on demand). >>> Also the app is totally oblivious to w >>> >>> 2. We need a visual editor that can create new Custom Controls, or design >>> containers like forms/windows. >>> >>> The Lazarus FreePascal IDE is an interesting project. >>> >> So instead of learning how to properly use existing libraries and then >> writing nice and clean code yourself you prefer to have some kind of >> gizmo spit out some crap for you and you actually call that programming? >> Thank god that most people writing free software don't take the same >> approach, because I'm convinced that's just a way of making things >> rapidly deteriorate. Don't get me wrong - I know these are very powerful >> tools in the hands of a true professional, but they're also helping to >> make things suck so much more when some lazy and incompetent fuck is >> just abusing them to roll his piece of crap ASAP so that he could start >> making easy money out of it and doesn't even have a clue of how to use >> them properly. Unfortunately I've seen way too much crap that was >> "programmed" exactly this way to prove my point. >> > What? Can you be more specific in how you come to this ramblings out of > what i wrote? How would having a standard rather then (at least) two > incompatible solutions create such a mess? > > >>> Another thing that we need is a good native database library. We have >>> >> JDBC and ADO.NET. Perhaps one of them could be ported to C/C++? We also >> have PHP Data Objects that is quite nice and probably implemented in C, >> perhaps the C code could be used to make a "C Data Objects"? >> >> There are quite a few - libmysql, libpq, libsqlite... many of them with >> bindings to whatever language you like. Just pick the best fit for your >> desired application. >> > So how do i use libmysql to connect to my postres database again? None of > those are database libraries. They are database-specific client libraries. > The only C database lib i know that is actively developed i libzdb > (http://www.tildeslash.com/libzdb/documentation.html). > > >> I think the bottom line is that the programming model is completely >> different and those who just want to make their job easy and cobble >> something up without actually knowing anything about coding are gonna >> have a very hard time getting used to it. >> > In what way is it different? Most things i suggest are already in the > programming model. The OLE/ActiveX-component type of component model for OO > programming does exist. It exists in the form of beans, kpart and bonobo. The > only difference with creating a standard is that kde objects would be usable > in gnome and gnome objects in kde. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail i mobilen på 5 sekunder! > http://new.windowslivemobile.msn.com/SE-SE/windows-live-hotmail/default.aspx > > -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
