You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that......
I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type........ Maybe Windows is the best system............... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worthy of my attention. Gentilli. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Randall Ross (rrnwexec) < rand...@executiv.es> wrote: > @mzc > I agree. > > @faldegast: > 1) Why would we market a kernel? > 2) Running Ubuntu on scrap/old is not putting our best foot forward, and > creates support issues. > 3) For the server side, we have Ubuntu Server. > 4) Ubuntu Software Centre is just that: a store for Ubuntu-compatible > software. The extension of USC to non-Ubuntu platforms would be > nightmarish in complexity. > > > On 10-10-22 10:37 AM, mzc wrote: > > @faldegast. You are suggesting an approach that led to mandriva 's > > downfall. > > On Oct 22, 2010 10:26 AM, "Faldegast" <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > >> What i suggest for Ubuntu is the following: > >> > >> 1. A Ubuntu/Linux/Elf software store. It should be designed so that it > >> can ship applications for many OS:es, not just Ubuntu. > >> > >> 2. A Ubuntu Pro commercial offering. Including boxed Ubuntu, a manual, > >> and support. Also some commercial stuff like DVD player. > >> > >> Ubuntu currently has Fluendo Windows Media and MP3 Playback Pack, > Fluendo > > Complete Playback Pack and PowerDVD Linux in its online shop. These > should > > either be provided trough a software store, or included in "Ubuntu Pro". > >> I would also see more commercial Linux applications there. For example i > > know there is a Ubuntu version of Majesty. I know for sure that i would > buy > > that. > >> 3. Both of above need a reseller plan. OEMs that preinstall a software > >> store or Ubuntu Pro have to make money out of it. And Ubuntu pro should > >> not be cheap. > >> > >> A software store and a commercial Linux with a distribution network is > >> what we need. I am certain that this is exactly what we need. For > >> servers we have RHEL but for clients the only thing available is > >> Mandriva, but they effort to build a distribution network is to weak. > >> They focus on an online store, and I believe thats their weakness. > >> Operating Systems is OEM products and they are usually sold with > >> computers, so we must target the OEM builders. > >> > >> While i have talked a lot about technology on this issue, technology is > >> not a #1 bug issue. We have technology, what we need to fix bug #1 is > >> marketing. > >> > >> There is no reason why Linux should have less usage share then OS X. > >> Linux can run on much more hardware that OS X supports, and it have a > >> great community. > >> > >> On another front, i think the idea of recycling old computers with > >> Ubuntu and give them to those that cannot afford a brand new PC is > >> excellent. I have done this a lot with lubuntu on really old computers. > >> I also have a ThinLinc server that can be used to run applications that > >> old computers are to weak to run. Its not fast enough for youtube, > >> however they can play mpeg2. Perhaps an application like minitube can > >> use a proxy server for transcoding to mpeg2 before a clip reach the old > >> box? > >> > >> > >>> Martin, > >>> > >>> True. Again i agree with that and i think we are in agreement again. So > > the > >>> various points people have made are valid except where we talk about > > noobs > >>> installing. > >>> > >>> > >>> Surely a shop that installs to perhaps tens of machines has time to > play > > around > >>> with even just 1 and has probably noticed all the quirkiness of > > installing > >>> Windows onto a wide range of very different machines and might realise > > that > >>> lack of knowledge might be the main barrier to a smoother install of > > Ubuntu (or > >>> other distro). Perhaps it is those people that we should target rather > > than > >>> normal users or people that do the odd one or two. Continuing to > approach > > both > >>> is probably still best. > >>> > >>> Regards from > >>> Tom :) > >> -- > >> Microsoft has a majority market share > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 > >> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > >> of the bug. > >> > >> Status in Club Distro: Confirmed > >> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid > >> Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid > >> Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix > >> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid > >> Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid > >> Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress > >> Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress > >> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress > >> Status in Tabuntu: Invalid > >> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid > >> Status in Tv-Player: New > >> Status in Ubuntu: In Progress > >> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid > >> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid > >> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid > >> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid > >> Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress > >> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed > >> Status in openSUSE: In Progress > >> Status in Tilix Linux: New > >> > >> Bug description: > >> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. > >> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix. > >> > >> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, > > restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and > > limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full > potential, > > globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry. > >> Steps to repeat: > >> > >> 1. Visit a local PC store. > >> > >> What happens: > >> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software > > pre-installed. > >> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed. > >> > >> What should happen: > >> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like > > Ubuntu. > >> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and > > benefits would be apparent and known by all. > >> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes. > >> > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscribe > > -- > Microsoft has a majority market share > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > > Status in Club Distro: Confirmed > Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid > Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid > Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix > Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid > Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid > Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress > Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress > Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress > Status in Tabuntu: Invalid > Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid > Status in Tv-Player: New > Status in Ubuntu: In Progress > Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid > Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid > Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid > Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid > Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress > Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed > Status in openSUSE: In Progress > Status in Tilix Linux: New > > Bug description: > Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. > This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix. > > Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, > restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and > limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, > globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry. > > Steps to repeat: > > 1. Visit a local PC store. > > What happens: > 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software > pre-installed. > 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed. > > What should happen: > 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like > Ubuntu. > 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and > benefits would be apparent and known by all. > 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes. > > > > To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscribe > > -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs