On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 03:13:57PM -0000, Mike Bianchi wrote: > Please do whatever is necessary to open up a bug that addresses the > long standing and still present condition of init scripts not being executed > reliably.
No, we do not proxy create bug reports. The user /experiencing the problem/ should open a bug report. Bug reports are an important tool for developers to have a dialogue with the user in order to isolate and resolve bugs. That doesn't work if the user isn't part of that dialogue. > For "Title" and "Description" I propose: > Boot service starts are sometimes, randomly, unreliable. > Execution of /etc/init/* and /etc/init.d/* boot scripts sometimes > fail. That is a generic title that only underscores the disconnect here. You are starting from the assumption that there is some general bug in upstart that causes boot scripts to be unreliable. There is no evidence of this. We have in the past identified bugs that had such an effect, and those have been fixed. For the vast majority of users, boot in Ubuntu is now reliable. Any bug report about remaining boot problems should be *specific* in its description of the problem. If there is a general bug, the developers can extrapolate from the specific to the general. But if you can't give specifics, it's not a bug report at all - it's a rumor. > Bug #554172, Comment #295 2011-02-12 > "... in a fresh 10.10 install (both 32 and 64bit). init.d > services are not always started. eg. hostapd and sabnzbdplus." The author of comment #295 says he is not currently in a position to help us debug this problem and that he will file a bug report if and when he is able. Once again, there is no need to proxy creation of a report. I understand that some people are still finding their boot unreliable. But there is no evidence that it's related to *this* bug report, and these boot reliability problems are not reproducible for any of the developers. We want to help make Ubuntu more reliable for users but the first step in doing that is for the affected users file bug reports for their specific issues and *not* misuse this bug report for that purpose. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/554172 Title: system services using "console output" not starting at boot -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs