On 3/9/06, Sandis Neilands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello again! > > On 3/9/06, Christian Bjälevik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you are chasing space on panel, try removing that > > > useless logout icon, which is fairly well accesible from menu, doesn't > > > indicate any state (or anything at all) and takes the most valuable > > > space on panel (for right handed users) while being used twice a day > > > (or less). > > I like it there. It saves me to use the menu when I want to log out > > using my mouse. I use the keyboard most of times though :-P. > > Hmmm, if our likes or dislikes are our only arguments for or against > things, then we can quickly get into trouble. For now, I haven't seen > any valid (technical, usability, etc) reason for that icon being in > that place.
Indeed. However, the standard thing for all portable devices I've ever come across is to always display the battery status, no matter if it's fully loaded, charging, discharging or plain empty. As already mentioned, screen real-estate is a non-issue (atleast on a modern laptop with >= 1024x768 resolution, which as far as I know something you'll need to run gnome 2.14). The disappearance of the icon is confusing, and only people who *know* the fact that the icon is set to disappear when the battery is full and on AC will understand that this effectively means their laptop is ready to hit the highway. Other people will start wondering if something is wrong. Maybe their laptop is malfunctioning and needs a reboot? > > > > I find this kind of decision making disturbing. Major change should be > > > discussed on -devel or -desktop BEFORE applied, not the other way > > > around. Another good example for behind-the-curtains decision is GDM > > > login screen and options menu. > > From what I've seen not many people answer on those querys, when they > > are made. > > No, wrong. Look at the recent "Firefox and the `you have chosen to > open ...' dialogue" thread in devel and desktop lists. However if > nobody answers, you can assume that nobody cares that much and do as > you will. But at least you would have been asked. > > >For the logout-button I think it's an sabdfl decision (corrent > > me if I'm wrong please) but it's often easiest to make a change and see > > how the community like it. They will complain if they don't ;-). > > Well, I'm part of the comunity and I hate it (the icon in the corner, > not Mark :) As far as the top right logout icon, I rather thought that change was a sensible one. It's far easier to log out via that than the menu. Of course, now that we have g-p-m, my main use of the logout icon can simply be replaced by "close laptop lid", but at the time of writing, not every laptop user out there is as lucky as me when it comes to suspend++ support. And since sabdfl is wikipedia's main benevolent dictator for life example, I think you all have to live with it there, at least for dapper, anyway. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
