On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 18:33 +1000, Sarah Hobbs wrote: > Whoever said that the bug triagers could not contribute to > -devel-discuss? For that matter, whoever said that they do not do so > already?
You got me. I do not know who said that. I know, though, that I am trying to keep triagers in the discussion. > There seems to be an attitude of "screw the developers, we are the > mighty bug squad, and can do what we like" here. > Sarah, please do not put in my mouth what I did *not* say. I do not know what other problems you have been having, but I am sure I *never* said such a stupidity. Let me re-state what I said: "I am not quite sure I understand. So the proposal will be discussed by developers without input from triagers?" > But really, isn't the job of the bug squad to get bugs into a good state > of triage, so they can be dealt with by the developers? Indeed. This is what we all want. > Does it not > make sense, therefore, to listen to what the developers want the bug > squad to do to the bugs, in a general sense, and then for the bug squad > to go away and deal with the specifics? No. It does not. It does make sense for *BOTH* developers and bug-squadders to discuss and reach a consensus. We do not impose on YOU how to develop, you should not impose on us how to triage. But we can reach a consensus. And the triagers will not go away, no matter how much you would like them to. > I don't think the bug squad should have the right to say "we will make > the rules, everyone else must follow them", as, while there are many bug > squad people (yes, developers are still bug squad too), the bug squad > does not put real bugs (ie, not invalid, etc) in a final state, so > someone always has to come after them, and touch the bugs afterwards. > This is not the case for developers. Again, I never said that -- YOU say it. What I said is I see no sense on having a discussion on how to triage done exclusively in the devel-discuss, and then presenting the triagers on what has been decided. There is a mailing list devoted to triaging. I see no problem in having the discussion in devel-discuss *and* on bugsquad (even if this means duplication): all affected areas will be able to immediately participate. But I still fail to understand why the discussion would be restricted to devel-discuss, a forum for developers, not for triagers. > > For those who are interested in getting the bugs into a final, finished > state, in the bug squad, you may want to look at becoming developers > yourselves. OK. So now I find that it is not the "mighty" triagers, but the "mighty developers"? > Just my AUD $0.02, from another fellow member of the bug squad and developer Ditto here, from someone who has done both development and triaging/support for some quite long years. I am not as ignorant as you may think. It is a pity that this discussion escalated so fast to the makings of a flame war. ..hggdh..
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