On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Martin Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This list was created to give users a way to discuss Ubuntu development with >> developers. Comments like "I was just joking about you having to know >> anything" make the decision to unsubscribe easy. I'm seriously considering >> it myself. > > It should remain, developers should remain.
I agree. If developers are unsubscribing from one of the two main development mailing lists, we have a serious communication problem in the community that needs to be addressed. When the distinction between -devel and -devel-discuss was set up, it relied on developers to take responsibility for following both lists. In the description of -devel-discuss, you see the phrase "Point of contact for Ubuntu users to reach Ubuntu developers". For this list to be successful, developers need to be reading it, or it's not worth having the list in the first place. > So on one side I think that list moderators or peers should be very > prompt in telling the wrong sorts of emails where to go, perhaps with a > standard template which explains the rules and a little checkbox by the > offence. That seems a good idea also. Unsubscribing from a mailing list is not the correct response to rudeness, it should be perfectly simple to correct it simply by pointing out some ground rules. That's why we have the code of conduct. If individuals who regularly read the list are interested in taking on the role of doing a little gentle moderating, then I'm pretty sure that it would be successful. From what I read on this list, I don't actually think that much intervention would be required. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss