Ryan Dwyer wrote: > I don't think there's any use discussing whether we think a GUI or CLI > is better. Shouldn't we focus on what the typical business wants and > what they're prepared to use?
You started it. :-D. BTW, please do not top post. > > Although it seems that the first topic to discuss is how the uid/gid > system can be changed or mapped to support local and domain accounts > (forgive me if I'm not using the correct terminology). The only option will probably be to extend the system and add support for 'domain' accounts to other applications. In an environment where new machines are added straight away to a domain/realm/whatever there is no problem but if you envision being able to move from a 'workgroup' environment to a 'domain' environment, that is currently not possible without major intervention by an admin. > > -Ryan > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Onno Benschop <o...@itmaze.com.au > <mailto:o...@itmaze.com.au>> wrote: > > On 23/10/09 07:04, Chris Jones wrote: > > But we shouldn't be encouraging the use of a GUI inside a server > > environment simply because it breeds dumb users. > > > While I agree that users, well "sysadmins" (and I use the term > loosely) > are getting dumber in the world, I don't think it's because of a > GUI. I > have seen plenty dumb things in CLI environments - Netware used to > be a > CLI environment and I saw much that made me shudder. In the "good old > days" of DOS you could do plenty of dumb things with its CLI. > > I don't think that the GUI is breeding dumbness as such. I'm sure that > it's a contributing factor. > > Education is the key. It's always been the key, and it will > continue to > be the key. > > When You Earnestly Believe You Can Compensate For A Lack Of > Skill By > Doubling Your Efforts, There's No End To What You Can't Do. > > > For me if a GUI helps me solve a problem by explaining what's > going on, > it's done its job. > > A final thought, which I've not come across. In the early '90s, Apple > had an OS called AU/X, which was a murder between BSD and UNIX. It had > one redeeming feature. If you were on a CLI and you typed a > command and > pressed Apple-Enter, you'd get a dialog that provided you with a > GUI to > that command. It allowed you to "compose" a command and on completion, > you'd be back at the CLI, ready to run the tool. > > -- > Onno Benschop > > Connected via Bigpond NextG at S31°54'06" - E115°50'39" (Yokine, WA) > -- > ()/)/)() ..ASCII for Onno.. > |>>? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. > --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. > > ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 8888 - > o...@itmaze.com.au <mailto:o...@itmaze.com.au> > > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > <mailto:Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
