Caroline Ford wrote: > > On 25 Oct 2009, at 15:09, Dotan Cohen <dotanco...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Or puts them out of a job? >>> >> >> Likely we are talking about a small business here, so the decision >> maker might be the top of the organization's food chain. But it might >> get him sued, and thus out of a business. If it is a sole >> proprietorship, it might put him out of a house too. >> > I meant the sysadmins complaining about making system administration > easier, and possibly "deskilled". > > If you feed yourself through Linux system administration you have an > interest in it being inaccessible.
Hahhaha. I am hired for my skills and knowledge, not for creating a system that nobody knows how to work. You have heard of outsourcing right? Well, they are welcome to replace me with any company since that leaves them with far more support than they would get if I get run over by a bus. I wonder why they do not do that though. BTW, I have Turk friend who has been using Linux and also been writing an inhouse system for the company he works for. Some young chap joined the senior management with his head full of theories and got the entire first generation of managers that built the company to leave whether by firing or harassing them. He is also gunning for my Turk friend. Ever since this chap got in, the IT budget has ballooned with the introduction of Microsoft software (for which you can pick any random person of the street to administer) it appears that soon he will be able to tell my friend to leave with an outsourcing arrangement. The implementators of Microsoft Dynamics took one look at my friend's inhouse system and asked whether he was selling it. Oh, btw, that uber expensive Microsoft Dynamics system crashes on a regular basis whereas the inhouse system had no problems at all. I have recently been given an extra hand. Do you know what I will be doing with him. Once the current list of big jobs are done and things have settled down, I will doing skills transfer because that is what I love doing as I used to be a Linux instructor at an adult computer training centre. If the school can find some random person better than me at my job, they can very well hire him or her. When I joined the school, the previous predecessor had already been gone for a month. I had to get in there and work out all the rubbish that was setup by him and his predecessors and get things ship shape. BTW, the school is a Microsoft shop. I introduced Linux and OpenSolaris to get things ship shape. You can guess what kind of system administrators they previously had. I'd call them paper MCSEs (of which I was one, I almost got my MCSE (later NT 4.0 track) certificate a month after justing attending a two week crash course for MCSE certification by successfully passing 4 required exams and an elective soon after and I had never had an IT job prior to that crash course) but hey, I would have been just like them if I had actually got a Windows related job and not a string of Linux related jobs for the next decade or so. For your information, Linux savvy companies tend to have IT heads who know their stuff. You cannot make the systems inaccessible to them. You also do not have to worry about them looking for and hiring some random idiot off the street. As for companies like the ones my Turk friend works for, they are more than welcome to put us out of a job and pay through the nose for Microsoft rubbish. If they do not appreciate just how much we are saving them and how much productivity we give them, we do not want to work for them. But you bet that there is no way I am going to support the stupid idea of empowering those who are not qualified. Why do we have driver's/plumber's/electrician's permits/licenses? They should likewise be system administrator's permits/licenses. (Now I am really showing a vested interest in making system administration inaccessible - to those who should not be system administrators in the first place) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
