"Danny Piccirillo" <danny.picciri...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 16:37, David Schlesinger <le...@access- company.com>wrote: > >> On 6/9/10 1:21 PM, "Danny Piccirillo" <danny.picciri...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >> > >> > Upstream linux is not free. That is why LinuxLibre was created. >> > >> > http://libresoft.es/Members/herraiz/blog/linux-is-not-free-software >> > >> > I have doubts that this was unintentional. Here's a list of nonfree stuff >> in >> > Linux: >> > >> > http://manulix.wikidot.com/kernel-blobs >> >> Danny, if you or anyone else has an issue with the governance of the kernel >> project, attempting to address it via an end-run through a "litmus test" of >> Ubuntu's support for "software freedom" seems a rather passive-aggressive >> way to go about it. I don't see much productive coming out of this >> discussion. >> >> If you're not happy with the way the kernel project is being run, I suggest >> you'd do better to go talk to Linus and Andrew Morton about it. >> >> If Ubuntu's governance is not to your liking, there are plenty of other >> distros. If none of those is to your liking, you can roll your own. >> >> >The fact is that Linux is not entirely free, and there is a project which is >the Linux kernel without the nonfree bits. Talking about linux governance is >out of the scope of this discussion. Ubuntu's philosophy says it is free, >but even the free software only option has nonfree bits. Why shouldn't i >expect the mere option to have a fully free system using Ubuntu? > Non-free software in Main is a bug. So fix the bug. Your would appear to confirm the that criteria for "non-free" on that list includes things that are free, but can be used to load non-free firmware, so the list doesn't impress me. Since iwl 4965 is on your list and that's what one of my laptops runs, I decided to have a look at drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-4965.c. /****************************************************************************** * * Copyright(c) 2003 - 2009 Intel Corporation. All rights reserved. * * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it * under the terms of version 2 of the GNU General Public License as * published by the Free Software Foundation. * * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT * ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or * FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for * more details. * * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with * this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., * 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110, USA * * The full GNU General Public License is included in this distribution in the * file called LICENSE. * * Contact Information: * Intel Linux Wireless <i...@linux.intel.com> * Intel Corporation, 5200 N.E. Elam Young Parkway, Hillsboro, OR 97124-6497 * *****************************************************************************/ License seems OK. I read through the code and it appears to load some microcode, but I didn't see anything in the source that looked like anything other than the preferred form of modification. I'm not a kernel hacker so I might have miss understood what I was looking at. Also that list mentions version 2.6.30 and I used the current Ubuntu 2.6.32 source for Lucid and it may have changed. So I'm curious what's non-free in that file to get it on the list? Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
