I think that providing a completely free install option with the Linux-libre 
kernel would be more trouble than it's worth. As a couple have pointed out, it 
could cause more accessibility issues and would require resources for its 
upkeep that could be better used elsewhere. 

There is a completely free Ubuntu-based GNU/Linux distro called Trisquel that 
uses the Linux-libre kernel and applies a filter to Ubuntu's repos to build its 
own. It is, from my experience a great, pretty user-friendly distro. I think 
those that the option would really matter to would and should just use 
Trisquel. I would love to see it become Canonical-sponsored or promoted, but 
that's up to them.

Ubuntu is targeted at a more mainstream user; that user more than likely wants 
his computer to just work, even if that means proprietary software and/or 
binary blobs. One of those driver blobs could mean the difference between 
'Happy Ubuntu Convert' and 'Failed Ubuntu Convert'. Trisquel is aimed at a user 
who is uncompromising in his/her pursuit of complete software freedom; IMO a 
great goal and one that we should all work towards, but not one that really 
encompasses the average computer user at this point.

Danny Piccirillo <danny.picciri...@ubuntu.com> wrote:

>Upstream linux is not free. That is why LinuxLibre was created.
>
>http://libresoft.es/Members/herraiz/blog/linux-is-not-free-software
>
>I have doubts that this was unintentional. Here's a list of nonfree stuff in
>Linux:
>
>http://manulix.wikidot.com/kernel-blobs
>
>On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 16:08, Scott Kitterman <ubu...@kitterman.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Danny Piccirillo" <danny.picciri...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 13:19, Scott Kitterman <ubu...@kitterman.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Danny Piccirillo" <danny.picciri...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Of course it is! At least according to our philosophy:
>> >> >http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy
>> >> >
>> >> >Still, many people don't think that Ubuntu is truly committed to free
>> >> >software in practice. These people can and should be our allies. Their
>> >> >concerns are valid, and they are not difficult to appease. I'd like to
>> >> >present a short list of simple ways that Ubuntu could show it's
>> >> commitment:
>> >> >
>> >> >1. Offer ways to easily purge all non-free software from one's system.
>> >> > * This would require supporting the linux libre kernel (it doesn't
>> have
>> >> to
>> >> >be by default, but the option should be available.
>> >>
>> >> No. It doesn't. That kernel removes the ability to run non-free drivers.
>> >> The exact same amount of non-free code runs if you don't have any
>> installed.
>> >> Just about the last thing Ubuntu needs is the maintenance overhead of
>> >> another kernel that only serves ideological purposes.
>> >>
>> >> There is already a free software only install option that not only will
>> not
>> >> install anything non-free, it also disables the restricted and
>> multiverse
>> >> repositories so that people who are concerned about this can safely
>> install
>> >> new packages without fear of contamination.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Yes, the free software only option is there, but isn't entirely free.
>> That's
>> >what linux-libre is for. Linux libre should be the kernel for the free
>> >software install. Mainline Linux is not free because it includes
>> binary-only
>> >firmwares hidden as source code files (or blobs)
>> >
>> >
>> Then these are bugs. They should be fixed. If the effort that's going into
>> a political kernel fork were put into high quality patches more progress
>> would be made. I suspect it's not because the fork is more about taking away
>> people's freedom to run non-free code than it is about fixing problems with
>> inadvertent problems with non-free bits in the kernel.
>>
>> Scott K
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