On 04/29/11 23:11, Deric Stowell wrote:
My system keeps halting. I guess i completely forgot that i did a PPA
upgrade. now it all makes sense.
Yeah, Ubuntu has a habit of playing the same market game as everyone
else (ship an incomplete i.e. broken product, release patches); but same
rules apply regardless: first question is what did you do, and after
that you can blame the product for being crap.
Thanks!!
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On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:42 PM, John Moser <john.r.mo...@gmail.com
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On 04/29/11 22:33, Martin Owens wrote:
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 21:11 -0400, John Moser wrote:
The Gnome developers are also upset at Canonical. No idea
why.
It's because Canonical only ate their ice cream cone and
wouldn't eat
their ice cream. I remember when Gnome developers* built a
rocket and
visited the moon, brought back a whole ton of cheese.
I tell you one thing that'll stop people using Unity... if it
doesn't
actually work. Hardware issues are a lot more pressing that design
issues, especially now that the design is much more demanding
on the
hardware.
Maybe, although there's a lot of press going on about this.
People have been critical about Ubuntu doing things they didn't
like before, though, and eventually they just eat it.
Significantly this time, I've found several issues that make me
worry that Ubuntu might get away with squashing Gnome-shell:
- I've played with both back and forth now for a while, and
Gnome-Shell is clearly better; people on-line are telling me the
same thing. Still, both are leaving me confused as to where a lot
of settings went (mostly, the appearance-related theming stuff; is
everything now going to be dark colors and blues like some cheap
sci-fi flick?), and both have a learning curve. Unity seems to
have no distinction between running applications and applications
you can run, which ... honestly just makes me want to find the
smart phone company that the Ubuntu Developers are working for now
and burn it down with them in it. Abstracting away the concept of
whether an application is already running or not is horrible.
- Installing Gnome3 from the PPA really does completely hose the
system; after that, Unity and Gnome-classic break, only
Gnome-shell works, and Gnome-shell doesn't work with my ATi card
(it skews the contents of windows diagonally, ad uselessness).
Imagine that, I ignored the warnings and something bad happened.
Like I said, Ubuntu is Microsofting gnome-shell. They're using
their market clout to squash a product that's better than theirs.
I'm waiting to see Canonical try to absorb the GNOME team.
Also I don't like that I can't write anything in python that
looks like
Unity, I have to write it all in C and talk directly to
OpenGL, which is
messy. If I tried to use Gnome3 then I'd end up having to write in
javascript, which I hate for no apparent reason.
Oh woe! Won't someone let me write cool stuff in python?
Yours with hugs and kisses, Martin Owens
* That ever fictitious collective aggregate.
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