On Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:25:09 AM Jono Bacon wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Scott Kitterman <ubu...@kitterman.com> wrote: > >> I don't think it is unreasonable for Canonical to focus its resources > >> on Ubuntu as opposed to the flavors. > > > > I'm crystal clear that the Canonical community team's QA effort is focused > > on trying to get the broader community to do QA on Canonical products. I > > think that's quite unfortunate. Rather than just trying to get free > > labor for Canonical, I would have hoped you wanted to make QA better for > > the entire Ubuntu project. > > > > This is in marked contrast to Daniel Holbach's efforts (which I've been > > watching and appreciating, but not had much time to get involved with) to > > bring new blood into the Ubuntu development process. He's pursing the > > kind of holistic approach I'd hope to see from your entire team. > > We *are* working to "make QA better for the entire Ubuntu project", > but the point is that our focus is on *Ubuntu* and our specific > efforts don't extend to coordinating flavor testing. This doesn't mean > we are ignoring our flavors, or are not happy to offer advice or > guidance, but my team (Daniel included) is not focusing their efforts > on helping specific flavors achieve their goals. > > I myself am surprised that you find this surprising: while many of our > efforts and programmes can bring value to the flavors (e.g. general > developer growth, working with upstreams, translations work etc), we > have rarely if ever assigned staff time to delivering on flavor work > items. > > This is purely and simple about resourcing. Canonical is a company, > and it needs to invest its resources carefully: sure, we would love to > support all the flavors with more staff time (not just Kubuntu), but > we simply don't have the resources to do so. Importantly, though, we > are not stopping flavors from doing this work themselves...we are > still providing the infrastructure and help and guidance we can offer > in doing this work.
We're talking about two different Ubuntus. You're talking about Ubuntu the product defined by a set of images/metapackages/etc drawn from a subset of the Ubuntu Linux distribution's archive. I'm talking about Ubuntu as a project which is bigger than either of those. Scott K -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel