On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs
<dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On 6 November 2012 12:57, Reinhard Tartler <siret...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> CC'ing ubuntu-motu as it heavily affects universe packages.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Colin Watson <cjwat...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 04:30:52PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
>>>> I intend to upload libav 9 to raring rather sooner than later. I'm writing
>>>> you because:
>>>>
>>>>  - the package is not in debian/unstable yet, but currently sitting in NEW,
>>>> targeted at experimental (but syncing is not possible anyway)
>>>>  - I don't think that there will be a similar fallout like the last big
>>>> libav package, but given that some more internal API got dropped and there
>>>> are a number of packages in the archive that use deprecated APIs, there
>>>> will be some problems.
>>>>  - I remember that Collin requested such big updates to be announced before
>>>> on this mailing list. I'm doing it with this email.
>>>
>>> I did?  I don't remember that particularly ...
>>>
>>> Anyway, I don't have a problem with this provided that you commit to
>>> organising an effort to identify and fix the problems in
>>> reverse-dependencies.  Last time, other people had to do a lot of work
>>> to clean up the mess and it all involved much more disruption than was
>>> necessary.
>>
>> Well, it it not like I had run away last time. Of course I did join
>> the effort to fix the resulting mess, but obviously, it was a lot of
>> work. Currently, I count over 80 packages that are directly affected
>> by this, most of them in universe.
>>
>> While fixing all packages in main would be no problem for me, I cannot
>> commit to fixing all packages in universe and hereby ask for
>> assistance.
>>
>
> Please upload into PPA, upload rdepends and wait for them to rebuild.
> Find problems together with other interested people.
> Please patches or even upload patches into the archive, only then
> upload new library into the archive for a quick and smooth transition.
> This has worked great with python3.3 transition.

OK, I will create a PPA inside the motumedia team. Anyone who wants to
help is welcome!

> Possibly setup a transition tracker on
> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/
> (there are a few examples in the branch to try out locally, see the
> branch link at the botton of any tracker)

Please review and merge this commit:
https://code.launchpad.net/~siretart/+junk/transition-tracker.libav

>
>>>
>>> (Please note that, assuming you're using the same source package name
>>> with a changed set of binary package names, the new -proposed migration
>>> system will enforce that this work is done before allowing the new libav
>>> into raring; so it is in your interest to make sure that it happens.)
>>
>> Does the migration system consider only the packages in main, or does
>> it require to not break universe?
>>
>
> It requires both and across all architectures (i386, amd64, armel,
> armhf and powerpc).

OK. then let's start with the PPA and get at least the intel platforms settled.

-- 
regards,
    Reinhard

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